A question on Gates to Astigard(sp?) and LO : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:51 pm

so I decided I want to install Gates To Astigard(sp?) anyway, i tried to create the OMOD, but the BSA does not appear when you click "Add File" as you instruct. only the esp. shows up, and there is no option in my dropdown menu to see all files. I can't figure out why this is.

also, i am wanting to check on if my LO is good or if i should change it around any? this is what i have been using as my LO for a couple of days and it is running smoother than ever, but i did hear one person say i needed to change it. For those wondering where the Bashed patch is, I have NEVER had it active, as it always crashes my game on startup (if you want to help me build it, i won't turn you down.)

Anything else constructive to tell a newbie would also be helpful. I also plan on adding the Amusemant park mod soon as well, but i REALLY want to see GtA first, then add that one.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]03  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]04  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]06  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0A  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0D  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0E  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]10  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]11  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]12  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]13  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]14  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]15  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]16  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]17  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]18  TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]19  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]1A  Knights.esp1B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]1C  The Lost Spires.esp1D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]1E  Streamline 3.1.esp1F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp20  MidasSpells.esp21  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:13 pm

Do you really need and OMOD? GtA consists only of two files, an esp and a BSA, quite easy to install and remove. There is no need of an OMOD, IMHO.

For your load order you can use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516, copy the files into your Data directory and run BOSS.bat (not BOSS.exe).

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:49 am

Well, Tomlong recomemends new mod users have OMODs. i did run one of my other mods without an OMOD, but it sounds to me like it might make it run smoother maybe or something?

EDIT: Wyre bash has BOSS in it, is that what i want to use? or a different program?

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:18 pm

Well, Tomlong recomemends new mod users have OMODs. i did run one of my other mods without an OMOD, but it sounds to me like it might make it run smoother maybe or something?

The only thing the OMOD will do is make it easier to uninstall.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 am

alright. ~~did you see my edit?~~

EDIT: that is BOSSlogs, which doesn't tell me anything i don't know.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:01 pm

Well, Tomlong recomemends new mod users have OMODs. i did run one of my other mods without an OMOD, but it sounds to me like it might make it run smoother maybe or something?

EDIT: Wyre bash has BOSS in it, is that what i want to use? or a different program?

Tomlong is right, but OMOD is really useful only for mods that install a large amount of files, so it will be easy to delete all those files scattered around your Data folder. Trust me, you don't need an OMOD for a mod which has only two files. You put them in Data folder, activate the esp, and play. When you want to uninstall it, delete those two files and you've done.

For what concerns the BOSS question: no, Wry Bash doesn't have BOSS included. It only includes a button to easy launch BOSS - provided that you have it already installed into your Data folder.

I hope I helped.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:46 pm

Wyre Bash launches BOSSlogs, which i don't think changes anything.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:33 pm

and where do i extract the BSA stuff to?

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:07 am

Wyre Bash launches BOSSlogs, which i don't think changes anything.

Ah, indeed I've never used that button... :whistling: Nevermind. Forget that button.
But the matter is always the same: if you put the BOSS files in your Data folder and run BOSS.bat, your LO will be tuned up automatically.

EDIT: the BSA needs to be placed into Data Folder, together with the esp. Don't rename the files in this folder. Then, you need to activate the esp. You know how, right?

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:26 pm

uh...you click the little checkbox in wyre bash?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:00 pm

uh...you click the little checkbox in wyre bash?

Yes, so it is. Alternatively, you can open the Oblivion Launcher and click on "Data Files", then select the esp from there.
This way the mod will be loaded into the game... otherwise it will remain inactive.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:28 pm

thanks.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:20 am

Tomlong is right, but OMOD is really useful only for mods that install a large amount of files, so it will be easy to delete all those files scattered around your Data folder. Trust me, you don't need an OMOD for a mod which has only two files. You put them in Data folder, activate the esp, and play. When you want to uninstall it, delete those two files and you've done.

For what concerns the BOSS question: no, Wry Bash doesn't have BOSS included. It only includes a button to easy launch BOSS - provided that you have it already installed into your Data folder.

I hope I helped.

It is also to try to stick to one installer for installation in OBMM's case because it is finicky about changes made outside of itself. For example, deleting plugins outside of OBMM will cause it to give various error messages, possibly hindering installation of OMODs during a given session. Not to mention, once GTA is packed in an OMOD, activating it is easier than installing through the executable...counting clicks and windows, anyway...

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:49 pm

hi tomlong. Now, if you see the question, the problem is that I can't find the BSA to create the OMOD, even though I know exactly where it is. i just can't see it under the Add file section.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:57 am

hi tomlong. Now, if you see the question, the problem is that I can't find the BSA to create the OMOD, even though I know exactly where it is. i just can't see it under the Add file section.

That is because you are not in the Data files view. Click the 'Data files' radio button at the bottom of the OMOD creation window to change to that view, and then the Add files button will have that default.

Edit: Never mind, just checked...

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:55 am

so what do i need to do?

» Sun May 29, 2011 3:52 am

so what do i need to do?

Click on the 'Data files' radio button to change to that view, and use the 'Add files' button to add the BSA...

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:52 pm

so now i just need to delete the two files from the Oblivion folder after the OMOD is made, right? it says to uninstall/remove them next.