I have done all quests for the Van Graff's, but after i retrieved the pulse gun from the vault they have turned hostile for no reason?...is there any way to fix this because i rely don't want to play that vault all over again.

Hmm don't know why taking the pulse gun would turn them hostile, and if you did the van graff's quests its not possible you could have completed heartache by the numbers[which also turns them hostile now].

Well i use the Save Cass mod so after i did heartache by the numbers quest they was still friendly, but after i retrieved the pulse gun they did turn hostile?...this has never happening in my previous game plays.

From Fallout New Vegas WIKI.....

Patch 1.2.0 added a new wrinkle to the peaceful ending. Turning in the evidence turns the Van Graffs permanently hostile. Apparently word gets around that the player turned them in to the NCR. This makes it impossible to complete both this quest and Birds of a Feather in the same playthrough.

But you can do the quest Birds of a Feather to, just you do it before turning in the evidence to Jackson.

Seeing as the Van Graffs are now permanently hostile if you do the peaceful ending, you gotta turn in the evidence to get a peaceful ending, you have to kill cass to complete Birds of a Feather, and Cass needs to be alive to complete Heartaches by the Number, I think that you either help Cass or the Van Graffs, not both

Well as i wrote so do i use the "Save Cass" mod, it allows me to lie to the Van Graff's goon that she is dead and he accept that....quest done.
Then i turn in the evidence to Ranger Jackson and finish the other quest.

;)

What part of, Turning in the evidence makes the Van Graffs hostile, don't you understand. If you have mods installed that alter the quests scripts for the associated quests there probably at fault.

If you have read what i have been saying then you should not have written that, this has never happening before with the same mods i always use...it started to happen after the update 1.2.0 like the WIKI page says.

Patch 1.2.0 added a new wrinkle to the peaceful ending. Turning in the evidence turns the Van Graffs permanently hostile. Apparently word gets around that the player turned them in to the NCR. This makes it impossible to complete both this quest and Birds of a Feather in the same play through.

I have no mods that alters the quests out come, just the option to lie to the Van Graff's goon that Cass is dead to save here life.

Try to read up before you post

The thing is, you HAVE turned in evidence against the Van Graffs, so THAT is why they are hostile. That is exactly what the previous user was saying as well. The reason that it's happening NOW and not BEFORE is because you didn't have patch 1.02 BEFORE.

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What's the problem? Just kill the Van Graff's and take their stuff. You have done their quests after all.

[posts made within minutes of one another make me crazy]

No he wrote...

If you have mods installed that alter the quests scripts for the associated quests there probably at fault.

I know that it is happening after 1.2.0 patch, if you have been reading what i have written so should you have seen it....have people been drinking to much eggnog today

:banghead:

Unless you wrote the mod you can't speak to what it all effects. You'd be amazed at the bugs mods can cause, things that seem completely unrelated can cause conflicts.

Now this is very important... WHEN did you turn over the evidence before or after the 1.02 patch. You haven't said you did the quests before patching the game. If you turned in the evidence after patching the game. Then as the wiki says Turning in the evidence turns the Van Graffs permanently hostile. . Having done Birds of the Feather is Irrelevant A trigger in heartache by the numbers makes them hostile with the 1.02 patch.

Reload your game from before getting the pulse gun, go to the Van Graff's and confirm there still friendly at that point.


Would you permanently wipe out the gun runners to take there stuff? Do you kill all the merchants rather then shop from them?

If the Gun Runners went permanently hostile because of another quest's outcome? Yes. They've became useless as a merchant at that point and are expendable. Yet this doesn't happen with the Gun Runners, or any other tradeing outfit in the game. Finishing "Heartache by the Number" leaves you with -1 merchant because the Van Graffs won't be willing to trade (hostile), or Gloria Van Graff herself catches a slight case of death. Might as well finish them off and collect the expensive goodies.

You asked what the problem was, being down a major supplier of energy weapon stuff is a problem if you use those weapons.

People have already clearly explained your issue and you're suspecting that they're drunk?

@ Lord Vukodlak
The quest was done after 1.2.0 patch, always start new game when new patches are released.

@ Yosamu
OMG....can you understand a joke, thats why i added the smiley after the text :laugh:


@ ALL
Well the issue is resolved as i wrote before when i got the info from the WIKI page, so have a nice Christmas all!