After 6 pages I believe my NCR topic is just about out of steam, regardless within the comments I noticed some people played the game as Legion or House or Yes Man. That said this is a general topic under this scenario. After you have defeated all the other major factions what actions would you take to rule the Mojave. In House's case the goal would be to go to space. In the NCR to stop the Legion and protect the border (though that discussion was basically exhausted though I suppose even if they won the Second Battle there would be other things to take care of). For the Legion it would be protecting your empire for the NCR (which would be back since the Legion wuold now be a direct threat to California), supressing the Mojave, and problems with over extention. Trying to hold Arizona and New Mexico AND the Mojave from the NCR, while dealing with Casers death and the death of high ranking military officers during the second battle.

For Yes Man I'm not even sure, the ending was quite vague too me. Yes Man says he'll become more aggresive but I don't think that means he kills the courier and takes over. At the same time as Oliver said it's a large responsibility to start your own state. Could you really do it? Honestly I felt the Yes Man ending was played down by the fact that no matter what the Courier was ineffective and let anarchy rain for years after his rule. Here's my examples for each faction.

Yes Man ending

First thing first send a fruit basket to the NCR for throwing Oliver off the Dam lmao but seriously there's some real work to be done.

A. Block off the Mojave Outpost kick the NCR while it's down.

When the NCR decides to come back I'd want to make things as hard as possible for them that said some C-4 on those large stautes and block the route with debry. After that post some securtons there and try to mointor NCR actions. I doubt that Kimball would survive re-election if he's not already dead from the assassination attempt and even if Oliver's alive it's not as if he's effective. The NCR senate would pull support for further operations in the Mojave and they'd experience a Vietnam type sydrome. I don't even think the Baja campaign would be continued though who knows how large that is.

In the aftermath of the Second Battle I'd kill as many NCR troops as possible, and any that survived at Mccaran from the Fiends would be easy targets from Securtons. Any at Golf would of died from the Legion, the ones at Forlorn could be taken care of. After that the remants would try to retreat through Mojave Outpost would be killed off by lack of supplies, raiders, or securtons.

B. Legion no more
If your going indepedent I don't see the logic in keeping Legate or Casear alive. For this purpose lets assume you killed them both. Now add in the Veterens who died in the Second Battle, now add those who would die from securtons cleaning up. Without leadership I doubt the Legion would have the resources to return. Hell talk to Legate he even knows some generals back in New Mexico and Arizona aren't loyal and would set up their own Despotic State. Honeslty besides Cottonwood I wouldn't even be concerned about the few Legion alive.

C. Other players
Rally the tribes as soon as possible and keep order in the Strip and surrounding Slums. Go to the boomers yourself and negotage trade relations. The Kings would be able to keep Freeside safe and the Fiends would be largely dead from the attack on Mccaran so I doubt they'd been too hard to deal with. The great khans aren't crazy but might as well be killed. Jacobstown isn't worth the time. There are many long term things to do and I'll probably go into great detail about those later. Hell I would of killed off the BOS since they'd try to control I-15 and Highway 93. That's no good for trade.

I'll make up a Legion one later, but for now what would you do to expand your factions empire?

Walk off into the sunset..
My dog by my side, whichever faction I supported at my back.
What more could one person do, even with a faction?

A lot! Even if the game's done and even if you've destroyed all oppenents there are still medium and long term challenges. The NCR and Legion might not be coming back for 10 plus years but most of the waste is still a lot to do especially if your yesman/house ending. For example how are you going to run the Dam? How many securtons are you willing to use to enforce things. What about smaller factions not mentioned in the ending slides. This thread is mainly to see how other people would run the waste, or help the factions run it post game.

Rule the mojave?
How boring.
I'd go to Reno and become a pormstar.
Screw being a postal girl, porm is where it's at! ;D

Seriously though, screw the mojave, I'm not going to rule that craphole, either it's Kings, Legion or no one.
So yeah I think I would go to Reno and become a pormstar.
Free six, free jet, free booze, free death.
What's not to love?

After NCR takes control of the Dam, they head out to capture Cottonwood Cove by:

*Sending troopers from the west in vertibirds and guns ablazing kill legionaries fighting. When the battlefield clears, they land the vertibird on the rooftop of a the bunker and clear out the remaining soldiers inside. They search each tent, even the Mess Hall. With the Legion wiped out from Cottonwood Cove, the NCR are one step ahead of them.

Then, take the boat to The Fort and:

*Destroy the front gates and charge in, millions of troopers and ranger shooting all over the place. They first wipe out the guards and they rescue the slaves and send them back to the safe boat. Guns ablazing (like last time) two vertibirds will hover over Caesars tent and land there. Once landed, the troopers and rangers will join the vertibird in combat to destroy the legionaries inside the inner Fort. They wipe out the legionaries, the guard dogs and the Legate was now leader after Caesar had died. The Legate was spared during the second battle of Hoover Dam, but was now dead. After searching the Fort, the NCR put a huge flage in the center, what used to be the arena.

The NCR then raid the Legate's Camp and:

*Wipe out everyone in there by sneaking in at night and cutting open each legionaries head while asleep. If anyone caught them, they would shoot on sight and fire at will. A vertibird wil come in, guns ablazing ( :laugh: ) and kill every remaining soldier of the Legion army.

The NCR will then blast into Arizona and wipe out every Legion city, sacraficing no one, not even pregnat woman, the elderly, or even children. It will be Bitter Springs all over again. NCR will gain control of Arizona and send Legion into New Mexico. With their lack of legionaries and supplies, they blend in with a nearby raider group, killing everyone in sight.

Most of that is good except the Arizona campaign. Flagstaff is the Legion capital and I have a hard time believing the NCR could whiz in and just take it. Sure the Legion would be weaken but that defense would be hell. I'm not sure if the NCR should risk an Arizona campaign so fast, they need to secure and pacifiy Vegas first! Hell they'd still have to clear I-15 and Highway 93. The citizens of Westside and Northside might have to be put under Martial Law etc. I'd say let them build up for a year before entering Arizona with a Bat. or more.

You're making the NCR sound like the Legion; and what's wrong with taking prisoners?

Anyways, after I help Yes Man take over Vegas, I will seize the NCR and the Legion of the Mojave, by going in all of their bases and killing each one of them.
It will be easy, because I was level 16 with only a Hunting Shotgun+ and Sniper Rifle. I killed everyone in Cottonwood Cove and The Fort, including Caesar. I have a collection of Legion armor and Helmets, including Caesar's Armor.

Yeah I just noticed that too, I mean hell you can kill on the soldiers they're just a waste of food being prisoners but the innocent and slaves should be set free into the Mojave not just killed.

Legionnaires kill themselves if they are captured.
Except Silus, but he's a profligate traitor who deserves to be burnt and thrown down The Divide.

Yeah but the slaves, and children don't do that! The profliagtes shouldn't just be slaughtered

Sorry I really meant no offense.. just as the courier I realy would leave whomever I supported in charge and leave.

As House, seek a way to strengthen ties with those arround the city and attempt to gain a total dominance of the power supply in the Mojave.
Trade contracts, BoS, Enclave and FotA secrets would next.
Followed by a way to either become a fully biotic life form, true living AI or just a way to get a host body.
Space and future of mankind mean squat, untill my needs and goals are seen to.

Ok as Caeser not the courier I would solidify the mountain borders.
Cleanse any town or settlement of dissenters.
Use slave labour to increase dams along the Colorado, build canols and feed the water into where it would suit best.
Indoctrinate the citizens to the legions way of thinking, and attempt to keep a tight reign on things.

NCR take over Vegas when the game ends, BTW.

Notes on the Arizona raid:

*I never said when they would raid Arizona, all I said was that they would. So I'm sorry. I should be more specific. 2 years after they take control of the Mojave chapter of the Legion, NCR gathers the slaves from Legion territory, transforming them into NCR as troopers and rangers. They gather the Westside militia, make a truce with the BoS, join the Enclave Remnants, raid the Powder Gangers and force them to help, learn from the Enclave remnants to control mutated creatures into fighting for them and gather the Boomers to help them.

*Once they gather all the power in the Mojave Region, they expand Archimedes II to launch anywhere in the United States and target Flagstaff. Arriving in Arizona, two days after the Archimedes II launch, they stop in the underground secret vault under Fort Drawbridge. They then head out to Flagstaff and find it in ruins. They find The Legion there, hopeless. The Legion plead to be spared but the NCR couldn't care less about their lives. They forced the remaining legionaries to join them and blew the heads of anyone who refused or resisted. They set their flag there, marking their territory. The rest of the Legion are forced into New Mexico with the large chunk of territory the Legion have there, but find that the NCR also launched Archimedes II at New Mexico.

*The Legion blend into a near raider faction and kill everyone in sight and take in slaves. The small nutorious gang are justified and The Legion are never heard of again.

Free Reliable Economic Zone Of New Extended Vegas, or, FRE ZONE V (ponounced free zone V)
i would extend out quite a bit, up to the nellis area and mojave outpost, permit legion and NCR citizens/traders to come and visit/trade. (they would be disarmed upon arrival to allow less crime/easier for securitron/police force to enforce laws/end acts of aggression)

i would send my vast army to wander the area/enforce the wastes, and of course make freeside mine, the kings can join as one of the bosses on the strip like the chairmen/omerta's, and even allow the followers to stay in their little fort to help people. as well as let the boomers join in the police force, allowing the boomers to gain access to trade in safe lands.

the brotherhood i would convince that they are going to die if they dont recruit people, and remind them of the brotherhood patrol that went to DC that recruited people (not up to date things like the purifier and such, my character doesnt know that.), and it in turn caused the people to practically rely/like them. i would them come to an arrangement where they help patrol the area, the can gain access to the best of the best in my army (the humans who join that is.) to join them if they wish, and highly advanced tech such as plasma and laser weaponry, can (if not needed) be handed over to them.
and thus, with civilians and trade still flowing plentifully, and securitrons running the mark 2 OS, brotherhood paladins, and boomers patroling and protecting the land, trade and prosperity will flourish in any town, (ex: primm, goodsprings, the mojave outpost, novac, the 188, ect ect),

i personally will have dealt with vault 19, the NCRCF, Black mountain, and the deathclaws in sloan/that cavern, the possibility of the rail line being destroyed, and made sure that the cure for jacobstown nightkin is made/trade is permitted if they wish.

:celebration: :foodndrink:

Wow those last few post are pretty damn good, I'll respond in further detail tomorrow. Peace!

As an independent Vegas Courier/ruler I'd have to secure the Strip first and solidify my rule by getting the support of the three families.
I'd have to watch over the NCR retreat and at the same time try to mend relations through the Ambassador. Making the Mojave Outpost a border guarded by both sides, would probably be necessary.
Meanwhile raiders and the like would have to be dealt with. Ties with the Mojave communities would have to be made/strengthened. Positions of importance would need to be secured (Hoover Dam, Helios One, McCarran).

Step 1 Secure the Dam/surrounding area: The chaos that will ensue following the double-cross Legate's Camp will have to be controlled quickly in order to make securing future territories easier. The Legion and the NCR will have to both be individually eradicated or the Strip may not be taken over so easily.
The Legion- With the extermination of their leaders Caesar (killed at the Fort prior to the battle) and Lanius (killed at the Legate's camp) along with the many Centurions dying the battle of the Dam, the separated and confused Legion squads will be little challenge for the vast number of upgraded Mark-II Securitrons. By the time the Legate is killed, the Securitron army will be in place to put the final nail in the coffin for the Legion. Eliminating the Legion as a threat in New Vegas, and possibly upend their entire regime.
The NCR- The NCR would be a force to be reckoned with in New Vegas. With several well occupied fortifications throughout the Mojave Wasteland, it would be difficult to simply uproot them like the Legion. The double-cross with Oliver at the Legate's camp will set in motion the "Blitzkrieg" style of attack that would force the NCR to retreat past the Mojave Outpost. What would be important to my plan, would be a strategy I call "forced retreat." Instead of simply slaughtering any NCR patrol my Securitrons stumble on, I would allow them to retreat. Any resistance would be crushed, but prisoners would be taken and returned to NCR territory. I would then hold the border against the NCR, but never engage first and never without warning. I would also try to negotiate terms to allow trade with the NCR, and try to rebuild my reputation with the NCR. This way I could reopen my boarders with the NCR to accelerate my economy.

Step 2 Secure Existing Borders: I will attempt to build a society of law and order and bring freedom to the wastes. To do this I will seek to control the tribes I want, and eliminate the ones I don't.
The Great Kahn's- Encourage the Great Kahn's to leave. They have situated their economy around the production of chems, and I want to limit the amount of chems and alcohol in my city.
The Boomers- Gain aid from the Boomers in the Second Battle of the Hoover Dam. I will allow the Boomers to remain at Nellis untouched, and often trade with them. In exchange I will tell them to use their Howitzers to protect the NCR border.
Brotherhood of Steel- Before the Battle I replaced McNamara with Hardin. I will allow the BoS access to Helios One as their new base of operations. In exchange, they will be required to help secure the border.
Followers of the Apocalypse- They will be given free roam over the entirety of my city and I will attempt to help provide economical support for them.
Enclave Remnants- I will allow them safe leave from city if they chose for their dedication to my side in the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. If they wish to stay I will provide housing/weapons/supplies for them to be my personal "grim reaper" of sorts.
Chairmen- With Swank as their leader and Benny out of the picture, I would allow the Chairmen to run their Casino.
Omertas- After taking out Big Sal and Nero and upending their plan, I will allow Chanino and the rest of the Omertas to run the Casino
White Glove Society- Stop them from become cannibalistic before the battle. Allow them to run their Casino.
Crimson Caravan- Allow them to keep trading within my city. Allow them to keep their base of operations.
Van Graff's- Allow them to keep trading within my city. Allow them to keep their base of operations.
Gun Runner's- Allow them to keep trading within my city. Allow them to keep their base of operations.
Raider Gangs- Upend/destroy all Raider gangs including Fiends, Jackals, Vipers, and Scorpions.

Step 3 Open Borders with the NCR: The NCR was a major reason why New Vegas had such a thriving economy. With the soldiers going there and spending all their money and tourists from the NCR, losing them would take a hit to the economy. Trying to get them back would be a challenge, but in would be done in due time. Some reasons why the NCR would still be interested in New Vegas are:
Power- The dam was a major source of power to the NCR. The Strip could function off only 5% of the power generated by the dam, so the Strip and surrounding areas would still fail to consume all the power generated by the dam. Also with the activation of Helios One to power all the areas, less than 50% of the power would be used. Meaning 50% of the dams can still be used as a bargaining chip to open the borders with the NCR.
Trade- With major trade outposts in my city, the NCR would be interested in opening trade routes. With a large Securitron army, I wouldn't be afraid of an attack from the NCR. The NCR isn't very self reliant, so they need trade routes to be successful and the Mojave Wasteland is the best area to got through.

Step 4 Profit: The setup of my city is nice. Being such a tourist attraction, the economy essentially runs itself. And with the Vault at the Fort producing more and more Securitrons, my army would become more and more powerful. If I wanted to I could expand to the North to the untamed lands, the East toward the crumbling Legion empire, or even the West toward the NCR. But in the short term, and probably in my lifetime, I wouldn't worry too much about expanding. I would simple allow my empire to run itself and enjoy the good life from my Penthouse Suit in the newly opened up Lucky 38 Casino (Yes I would reopen the Casio in all it's old world glory).

Nice poem.

That's not your dog D:

the kings probably spiraling into deppression without rex :shakehead: