[quote]They probably don't care because they anticipate gaining 4 or 5 times as many as they will lose due to the new console audience. Losing a few hundred loyal customers doesn't pay the bills like adding a few hundred thousand that will ditch them at first sight of a new game. They want more sales and the best way to do that is to emulate the best selling and most played fps out there...cod.[/quote]

Yes this right in the gaming industry its business and who makes most cash from sales,yes there are fans of each game and crytek hear peoples views to a level than after that its to bad for them.Crytek will make changes here and there in these few months to come and if people don't like the game even after the new changes to bad for them,they will get a new number or new fans and people will still buy it and see it to be epic to them . its all about the green people that's what counts in the end.

[quote]WHY MUST CONSOLES **** EVERYTHING UP[/quote]

No point going on and on about it wait for the game to come out stop crying about a game that has not been finished yet!

You may be shocked to find that the 32 player will still be there but only for pc and also other great changes.Think my friend why would they push the game back to march, don't you think they read the issues we put up here hmmm? Both PC and console owners are valued and they don't want to lose any of the two so they are going back to make changes to make both fans happy

Wow, the PC version suffering from all the hindrances of a console? THAT NEVER HAPPENS

Might as well just save yourself some time and port it over.

Aside all arguments about gameplay, multiplayer etc.

Lets just face one fact that wont change in the next 7 months:

Crysis 2 is NOT the next big step forward in graphic development.
We all can see that it is just a modified Cry Engine 2.

For better understanding,lets compare Far Cry and Crysis.
They were about 3 years apart.
It was a change from Cryengine 1 to Cryengine 2.
The graphic differences between these two games are huuuuge.
Or must we discuss about that?
Crysis was a major leap forward, thats just a fact.
So everyone thought... 3 years after Crysis ..we will see another huge step forward.. and then Crytek said they will release it on consoles.
It was like a kick in the nuts with maximum strength.
The first Crysis was Pc only because of its enourmous hunger for hardware. So what could they possible bring up this time?

I thought they wanted to play in the same league with id and Epic..
With Crysis they even surpassed these companies.
For me Crysis 2 is just Crysis 1,5 with Cryengine 2,5.
Next time go for photorealism by defending your politics on no compromise. Its not all about money.. its also a bit about honor.
And just for the records.. Crysis 1 didnt sell so bad.

@BIgboulder: Yes crysis1 sold enough copies even now they still sale I have 3 copies of crysis1 and warhead on for playing one as a collectable and another for people who want to borrow but the bay cash for a week of having it lol. You see it all about making money in the end so they are doing the same,they want more sales than their 1st game how do you expect the company to run huh? Honor is something each company has but it must be balanced both honor and profits . so what i say is am okay now with any new changes made life is about change and crysis2 and N2 are changing why not us . Am happy that quality is what they value most so expect allot of it in crysis 2 and more once its out .

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They also removed leaning [/quote]
Leaning is there,i will send you a video of it just let me find the link[/quote]
here have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0[/quote]
Crappy consolized lean...[/quote]

The fact is that its there lol[/quote]

I know it's there. The reason i called it a crappy consolized lean because you can only use it near a "cover", like a wall or a big crate.

In Crysis 1 you could use it where ever and when ever you want, but i don't really care about lean.
Besides i never used it. hehe

For me Lean should only be implemented on the tactical shooters like the Rainbow Six series.

huh? What happend to the quotes? 0.o

[quote]huh? What happend to the quotes? 0.o[/quote]

You can crouch or go prone its just that the person playing in the video is not using it lol .

[quote]@BIgboulder: so what i say is am okay now with any new changes made life is about change and crysis2 and N2 are changing why not us. [/quote]

Lets talk about your "good" changes on the Nanosuit 2.

The N2 now only has 2 or 3 modes or whatever, Armor, Cloak and that tactical thingy - I say, why take away maximum strenght?

Sure it's fused into one of the modes now but max. strenght wasn't used only to jump higher or punch harder.

Maximum strenght was also used to throw grenades further and to steady your aim when sniping with DSG1 or shooting with minigun.

But nooooo they had to take it away and for me that alone added more depth to gameplay.

[quote][quote]@BIgboulder: so what i say is am okay now with any new changes made life is about change and crysis2 and N2 are changing why not us. [/quote]

Lets talk about your "good" changes on the Nanosuit 2.

The N2 now only has 2 or 3 modes or whatever, Armor, Cloak and that tactical thingy - I say, why take away maximum strenght?

Sure it's fused into one of the modes now but max. strenght wasn't used only to jump higher or punch harder.

Maximum strenght was also used to throw grenades further and to steady your aim when sniping with DSG1 or shooting with minigun.

But nooooo they had to take it away and for me that alone added more depth to gameplay.[/quote]

MAximum strength still does all that you have it has been fused with said maximum speed when you put that fused mode on you will still throw grenades further and still steady your aim

The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5

[quote]- We're still quite a while away from release, just under 7 months. A lot can change in that time. I'm sure if the community keep providing their feedback in a mature and civil fashion, movements can be made.
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Very true. I hope that Crytek uses this time wisely. They still have time to fix these issues.

[quote]- BC2 was/is a huge hit in the MP FPS market. It has no prone. On a personal note, i thought it was a brilliant implementation. I thought it completely suited the pace of the game. If BC2 is any indication of what to go off, i'll be glad if there's no prone in Crysis 2.
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I own BC2 for PC. It's awesome. I noticed how it had no prone, and it really didn't bother me. I just adapted my playing style accordingly. If there is no prone in Crysis 2, that's fine with me.

[quote]- BC2 was not scaled down to 32 players because of console limitations. The Bad Company series began on console. How easily it is to forget/ignore when excellent games are ported from console to PC, but when it's vice versa, all hell breaks loose.
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I didn't know that. Good point.

[quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

NS-1?

[quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

The N2 is not weak in fact its a little better than the N1,they made it easier to use because on top of its factions its going to have upgrades to deal with different problems

Have a look at the video at this link and you will have a little idea on what it can do ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0

[quote][quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

The N2 is not weak in fact its a little better than the N1,they made it easier to use because on top of its factions its going to have upgrades to deal with different problems

Have a look at the video at this link and you will have a little idea on what it can do ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0[/quote]

That's a great video, one of the best I think.

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[quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

The N2 is not weak in fact its a little better than the N1,they made it easier to use because on top of its factions its going to have upgrades to deal with different problems

Have a look at the video at this link and you will have a little idea on what it can do ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0[/quote]

That's a great video, one of the best I think.[/quote]

Yes it gives us an idea of what the suit can do and i mean idea they say it can do more than was shown there

personaly i loved the way NS-1 worked, it was as close to perfect as you can get, dont fix what aint broken.

i still have hope that crysis 2 will be better than crysis 1, forget the graphix, its all about gameplay. now i have my pc running properly again im gonna reinstall crysis wars for some of the best multiplayer i have ever played.
powerstruggle is the 2nd best game mode right after CnC mode in command and conquer: renagade.

if there are fewer than 32 players per server than im just not gonna get the game. i would like to see mesa return due to its overwelming awsomness.

maybe crytek will release anothere awsome game but with 2 already maybe its 3rd time unlucky?

well, the game still looks graphically awesome with cool physics and everything. Yeah, the PC cut thing does piss me off a bit but it still looks awesome, and besides we were told that if we had killer PCs it would definitely be better for us

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[quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

The N2 is not weak in fact its a little better than the N1,they made it easier to use because on top of its factions its going to have upgrades to deal with different problems

Have a look at the video at this link and you will have a little idea on what it can do ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0[/quote]

That's a great video, one of the best I think.[/quote]

Yes it gives us an idea of what the suit can do and i mean idea they say it can do more than was shown there [/quote]

It's awesome how you can lean over and to the sides of cover, put up those shield thingys to protect yourself, and kick just about anything you want. You can also jump, grab a ledge or edge of a building and climb over. There is like heaps of interactivity with the environment, and you can use it in any way you want.
And the graphics just look hectic

The graphics look amazing. I am not too concerned about those (But... I would like to see more high-resolution PC footage, instead of this console crap).

My biggest concern is currently the number of players. In BC2 for PC, I always go into a game that's almost full. I like to play with as many people as possible.

If I can only play with 11 other people at once, then that is a deal-breaker for me.

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[quote]The Nanosuit 2 actually seems weaker than the NS1. How ass backwards Crytek. If you are going to make the NS2 weaker, then dont call it the NS2. Its more like the NS0.5[/quote]

The N2 is not weak in fact its a little better than the N1,they made it easier to use because on top of its factions its going to have upgrades to deal with different problems

Have a look at the video at this link and you will have a little idea on what it can do ok?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3EH7j8kP0[/quote]

That's a great video, one of the best I think.[/quote]

Yes it gives us an idea of what the suit can do and i mean idea they say it can do more than was shown there [/quote]

It's awesome how you can lean over and to the sides of cover, put up those shield thingys to protect yourself, and kick just about anything you want. You can also jump, grab a ledge or edge of a building and climb over. There is like heaps of interactivity with the environment, and you can use it in any way you want.
And the graphics just look hectic[/quote]

Loads of moves will be able to be pulled in this game allowing pple to experiment !

[quote]The graphics look amazing. I am not too concerned about those (But... I would like to see more high-resolution PC footage, instead of this console crap).

My biggest concern is currently the number of players. In BC2 for PC, I always go into a game that's almost full. I like to play with as many people as possible.

If I can only play with 11 other people at once, then that is a deal-breaker for me.[/quote]

PC footage is after the game is out or wait about two months.