Even though I am not in the testing yet, I am going to start a topic where we can post any links to help mods help EA get rid of this videos, I did this while testing Spec Ops The Line and I am still doing this to help the mods and the game company.

Mod Edit: Links removed.

I think it is kind of sad how people do not even honor an agreement. I think ( if it's possible) if they could maybe make the players file unable to load or ban them from playing and redistributing the codes to more loyal people out there.

Is it THAT big of a deal that they are breaking NDA? Honestly, good for them. Crytek has by know means honored the community, and therefore we should not honor the NDA. I respect you, but this is dumb. I wouldn't support the NDA until Crytek actually supports the community. Only then, will I frown upon contract breakers.

Breaking a NDA is just like breaking a legal contract, this may clear it up more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement

It may not seem like a big deal, but honestly it really is a big deal. But I would like to see Crytek take some action, in my opinion (probably in yours too) they should do something for the other members who didn't get accepted (yet or not even get accepted at all).

Breaking a NDA is just like breaking a legal contract, this may clear it up more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement

It may not seem like a big deal, but honestly it really is a big deal. But I would like to see Crytek take some action, in my opinion (probably in yours too) they should do something for the other members who didn't get accepted (yet or not even get accepted at all).

True but in reality bro it's not a big deal. But you're right, Crytek should do something for the community. Honestly, I just would like REAL SOLID ANSWERS from Crytek. Not a crappy FAQ that gave absolutely nothing of importance info.

Again, I know it's technically a legal document, but it's not something that anyone is going to get sued, threatened, or directly punished for. It's just a crappy way of forcing people not to show the game. But dude, it's a MP test that shows well... Almost nothing of the game accept for some guns and a little gameplay dynamics. If this was a full blown beta full of ten of thousands of testers and lots of actual gameplay content, then and NDA becomes more into affect. But a silly so called 1000 user "stress test" is by no means a place to drop an NDA. Especially after epic fail invites that they sent out.

I really dont see why these vids actualy hurt Crytek, despite their NDA, but that is beside the point.

Crytek has not failed/betrayed the community, people need to stop whining, you got a code or not. obviously those people who posted the vids got a code and are playing, good for them, they should respect the laws that allow them to play, that is, the NDA

meanwhile I am enjoying all of the vids to see how the MP is looking, and Im pretty pumped

I really dont see why these vids actualy hurt Crytek, despite their NDA, but that is beside the point.

Crytek has not failed/betrayed the community, people need to stop whining, you got a code or not. obviously those people who posted the vids got a code and are playing, good for them, they should respect the laws that allow them to play, that is, the NDA

meanwhile I am enjoying all of the vids to see how the MP is looking, and Im pretty pumped

It's not so much betrayal, but the fact that Crytek seems to act oblivious to a community that requires them as much as they need us. To call a 1000 player test, stress testing, is just dumb. That's pretty much what it comes down to. Anyways enough with the derailing, already a thread to discuss our feelings towards crytek atm.

I think this now, Crytek should allow the vids to stay. In this way they kind of fix the wrong. Now everyone can atleast get a glimpse of the game. That's by far fair and would pretty much fix the wounds. All we want is the chance to see the real game and try it. It would not have hurt Crytek to not put an NDA.

@OP - Whilst your willingness to follow rules is something refreshing and good, posting links to said NDA breaches doesn't really help the cause.

Honestly, I just would like REAL SOLID ANSWERS from Crytek. Not a crappy FAQ that gave absolutely nothing of importance info. Which questions/information do you need answering on?

If this was a full blown beta full of ten of thousands of testers and lots of actual gameplay content, then and NDA becomes more into affect. But a silly so called 1000 user "stress test" is by no means a place to drop an NDA. Especially after epic fail invites that they sent out. An NDA is there to protect both Developer and Publisher from people spreading negativity about a product that is in early stages of development which could in-turn unfoundedly impact on the sales of the final product.

So in opposite effect to your point, a test with tens of thousands of users would make less sense to be covered under NDA as there's 10 times the amount of people who will likely break it. It's a simple level of respect that some people clearly don't possess when it comes to sensitive information and especially under common goals and interests, some people just don't care, which is quite sad.

As for the "epic fail" on invites, i'm not sure exactly what you mean there?

well said, but I think what hes talking about is how some people received invites and other didnt, while some people who did receive invites never got a followup email with the code.

An NDA is there to protect both Developer and Publisher from people spreading negativity about a product that is in early stages of development which could in-turn unfoundedly impact on the sales of the final product.

I honestly never thought of it that way. As for the opposite to what I was getting at part with a large test and NDA, I still believe that it will be held up more simply on the fact that, the company behind issuing the NDA is going to be more aggressive about it. Again though, your point is more solid so I wont dig myself into a hole, though I still think an NDA on this really doesn't do much simply because it's just MP stress testing. Don't think any critic is going to say anything about a game still some ways in its development.

There is absolutely no need for all the negativity the "community" is giving Crytek. Whether it is the stress test or beta, they stated from the get-go that not everyone will receive a code.

It REALLY is that simple.

So you weren't sent code? Too bad. Everyone here feels they deserve it one way or another, but that is not how it works.

It's done. Get over it.

There is absolutely no need for all the negativity the "community" is giving Crytek. Whether it is the stress test or beta, they stated from the get-go that not everyone will receive a code.

It REALLY is that simple.

So you weren't sent code? Too bad. Everyone here feels they deserve it one way or another, but that is not how it works.

It's done. Get over it.

This is kind of old news now and has no relevance to this thread. And yes, their is some negativity to be given as Crytek did go about a very rough and horrible way of distributing keys, and for that, criticism is needed to learn. Ive learned a lot today, and rest assured, everyone is back where they once were thanks to Shinanigans pretty hastily responses to all the hate from the community tonight, and with good manner as well.

No need to bring a thread back off topic.

There is absolutely no need for all the negativity the "community" is giving Crytek. Whether it is the stress test or beta, they stated from the get-go that not everyone will receive a code.

It REALLY is that simple.

So you weren't sent code? Too bad. Everyone here feels they deserve it one way or another, but that is not how it works.

It's done. Get over it.

This is kind of old news now and has no relevance to this thread. And yes, their is some negativity to be given as Crytek did go about a very rough and horrible way of distributing keys, and for that, criticism is needed to learn. Ive learned a lot today, and rest assured, everyone is back where they once were thanks to Shinanigans pretty hastily responses to all the hate from the community tonight, and with good manner as well.

No need to bring a thread back off topic.


Old news? I'm not sure about you, but the OP and your comment date reads October 23rd.

Criticism? Crytek has by know (no) means honored the community, and therefore we should not honor the NDA. THAT is not criticism. THAT is being a self-entitled brat. Don't back pedal now because you received a response from the Crytek staff.

Anyway, thanks for chuckles. I'll go ahead and leave this thread before a staff member is needed to step in.

There is absolutely no need for all the negativity the "community" is giving Crytek. Whether it is the stress test or beta, they stated from the get-go that not everyone will receive a code.

It REALLY is that simple.

So you weren't sent code? Too bad. Everyone here feels they deserve it one way or another, but that is not how it works.

It's done. Get over it.

Just get use to it, its all independent.

Although I no-one should be posting videos if crytek dont want them too I think hunting them down and banning them is a little harsh when I went to look at one when I didnt get into the test just to see it in action. I knew it was an alpha and I didnt take any decisions on it.

I actually agree on this one. It irritates me how some of the people who got in decided to break the rules. They are dishonest, and they don't deserve to test the game if they are just going to break the rules.

And an NDA this early in the development process DOES make sense. Some people just don't know the development process, and may think that the game svcks because there are glitches. And then they will tell everyone about it, saying that the game is terrible and then nobody will buy it.

I just registered on these particular boards yesterday but I've been a part of EA's Gun Club since Bad Company 2 and all I hear is crying about how you didn't get a beta code.

Get over it. They didn't do a bad job at distributing codes, they did an excellent job because they can get other people's opinions and feedback on the game OTHER than obvious Crysis/Crytek whiny fanboys like everyone crying that didn't get a code.

If someone can link an NDA that was signed by receiving a beta code I will retract this statement, but there isn't an NDA, I re read the User License Agreement twice yesterday and found nothing regarding an NDA, there's nothing in the email that contained my beta code regarding an NDA and there was nothing regarding an NDA in the email prior to that to notify them of my acknowledgement of a preliminary invite.

The little bold blurb under your beta code saying "Because this is a closed test, we ask that you not discuss your experiences publicly or capture media. Happy testing!" is not an NDA and I find it ironic that someone like myself, who's in the test has no read an NDA while people who are obviously NOT in the test are crying about it being broken, or more so about not even getting a key.

I just registered on these particular boards yesterday but I've been a part of EA's Gun Club since Bad Company 2 and all I hear is crying about how you didn't get a beta code.

Get over it. They didn't do a bad job at distributing codes, they did an excellent job because they can get other people's opinions and feedback on the game OTHER than obvious Crysis/Crytek whiny fanboys like everyone crying that didn't get a code.

If someone can link an NDA that was signed by receiving a beta code I will retract this statement, but there isn't an NDA, I re read the User License Agreement twice yesterday and found nothing regarding an NDA, there's nothing in the email that contained my beta code regarding an NDA and there was nothing regarding an NDA in the email prior to that to notify them of my acknowledgement of a preliminary invite.

The little bold blurb under your beta code saying "Because this is a closed test, we ask that you not discuss your experiences publicly or capture media. Happy testing!" is not an NDA and I find it ironic that someone like myself, who's in the test has no read an NDA while people who are obviously NOT in the test are crying about it being broken, or more so about not even getting a key.

Go to the " MP Test impressions" one of the mods say that the test is under an NDA.

There is absolutely no need for all the negativity the "community" is giving Crytek. Whether it is the stress test or beta, they stated from the get-go that not everyone will receive a code.

It REALLY is that simple.

So you weren't sent code? Too bad. Everyone here feels they deserve it one way or another, but that is not how it works.

It's done. Get over it.

This is kind of old news now and has no relevance to this thread. And yes, their is some negativity to be given as Crytek did go about a very rough and horrible way of distributing keys, and for that, criticism is needed to learn. Ive learned a lot today, and rest assured, everyone is back where they once were thanks to Shinanigans pretty hastily responses to all the hate from the community tonight, and with good manner as well.

No need to bring a thread back off topic.


Old news? I'm not sure about you, but the OP and your comment date reads October 23rd.

Criticism? Crytek has by know (no) means honored the community, and therefore we should not honor the NDA. THAT is not criticism. THAT is being a self-entitled brat. Don't back pedal now because you received a response from the Crytek staff.

Anyway, thanks for chuckles. I'll go ahead and leave this thread before a staff member is needed to step in.

+1.

As much as I want to see awesome new footage.... If there is an NDA, it should be honoured
:(

Oh well. We have a new story trailer coming up soon

ehh we do?

ehh we do?
Yep
crysuki posted this link on inCrysis: http://twitter.com/reevepeter/statuses/28401426124

Aren't any of you guys worried that you might get sued or banned from the game?

Aren't any of you guys worried that you might get sued or banned from the game?

Apparently not. The most that usually happens is the videos are taken down. Although, it is always nice to honor the NDA because the company is nice enough to allow you to have a hand in their development and play the game early.

Aren't any of you guys worried that you might get sued or banned from the game?

Apparently not. The most that usually happens is the videos are taken down. Although, it is always nice to honor the NDA because the company is nice enough to allow you to have a hand in their development and play the game early.

Agreed.