Was just thinking about the Nvidia cash infusion, and how it will affect the owners of other gpu's and cpu's.

Was just thinking about the Nvidia cash infusion, and how it will affect the owners of other gpu's and cpu's.

Wait, what about Nvidia? Can someone inform me of what is happening please?

I'd assume not, nvidia have been slapped across the knuckles too many times. Also, with the AMD market dominance since 2009, crytek can't afford to let nvidia nerf performance on AMD cards.

All it boils down to is nvidia getting their name on the box and a couple of extra dx11 features in the game for all dx11 cards, for either AMD or Nvidia.

That'd be some ****, like locking AA on Batman: AA on AMD cards.

I highly doubt it. Just a little under half of all PC users own AMD. It would piss a lot of people off.

Plus there is no reason.

Since 2009, AMD own about 75% of the gpu market thanks to the stellar hd4 series and the kick ass hd5 series, that's the market crysis 2 will be aimed at

Wow seriously? They really do that? Kinda makes me wish I didn't buy Nvidia that's pretty evil lol.

They do occasionally (hawx 2 was the latest example, where they made sure the tessellation worked as badly as possible on AMD hardware). But meh, just makes the look incompetant.

I tend to ignore the company in the end, i just buy the best components for the money.

I doubt it. It might be optimized for one brand or another but i dont think that they actively try to make to make it perform as badly as possible (already too much to do on top of that anyway...).

I hope it does not affect AMD cpu's.

I just bought a nice Phenom II X6 1075T and do not want to be disappointed.

crysis2 is made on intel/nvidia
so obviously its gona scale better
but not my much

that's what i'm saying, why does it have to be optimized for either set, it ought to be open that way the gamer doesn't get shafted either way.

Games don't scale better if they have a company's logo on it. Crysis 2 will run just as well on AMD/NVIDIA or Intel/AMD. The only reason the logo's on the box and before you start the game is because it was paid to be put there.

Things are different when it comes to PhysX. That is all. However, even then you can either:
a) Download a fan-made patch to enable PhysX features, even if you don't have an Nvidia card, although more strain is put on your CPU, which is always underused nowadays (LOLNVIDIA!)
b) Insert an old NVIDIA 8800 series, or newer, card alongside your faster AMD one, and use that for PhysX. You need to download a patch thingy though because NVIDIA disabled their cards from running PhysX when you have an AMD card. (LOLNVIDIA!)

Yes, so NVIDIA are evil.

no dude -.-
it runs better and has the logos because thats what the game was built on
obviously if they build using intel and say lets max out the cpu in every possible way
its gona scale better for intel architecture same goes with gpus amd n nvidia have different architecture

Look, games can't be optimised for one piece of hardware over another. Things can't just "scale" better depending on the logo, as its just a processor chewing its 1s and 0s.
"Maxing out a CPU in every possible way" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If processors were as split as you believe them to be, you'd need to download special "Intel supported Microsoft Word" or an "AMD enabled Windows 7".
It's all marketing. They may say 'it performs the best with us!', but it's corporate BS. NVIDIA know that Crysis 2 will look good, sell well, and be seen by many, so they pay EA/Crytek to stick their logos on the box. They may even pay them to add better DX11 support, but that isn't NVIDIA exclusive, everyone benefits from it. In fact, that may arguable benefit AMD more, as they were the first to release the DX11 cards.

NVIDIA are renowned for paying developers to disable features in games when AMD cards are detected. Take Arkham Asylum, for instance, if an AMD card is detected then anti-aliasing options disappear off the menu. Download a patch, or change your videocard's ID number to disguise it as NVIDIA and AA is on the menu, and functioning completely perfectly.

Intel CPUs benefit from hyper-threading, so they have a larger number of simultaneous threads. They may pay developers to take advantage of it, but that's progress, and someone with an AMD quad-core won't feel anything compared to an Intel dual-core with hyper-threading enabled. Even then, games barely chew through a CPU at all, it's all in the GPU.

NVIDIA also cheat on the newer 3DMark benchmarks, by having the PhysX support, which contributes a huge amount to the overall score. In actuality PhysX is nearly meaningless and is a patch away for the games which support it. Even then, underused CPUs can do the processing, especially since most are multi-cored.

There are thousands of CPUs and GPUs on the market, and it's impossible to cater for one particular card, or a family, especially when they're constantly developing through drivers and new hardware. Everything changes so fast, so that if a game is "optimised" for any one product, one month later when new drivers come out everything changes.

As said above, the game probably will scale a bit better. Because the logo is there it doesn't mean its only there for the money. It's probably been optimized to take advantage of nvidia's few extra dx11 features including tess. But it shouldn't make much of a difference at all. Besides there are so many awesome ATI cards out there...
Although Nvidia's 580 GTX is apparently the fastest SINGLE GPU card out there right now.

Although the GPU companies follow standards laid out by DirectX and OpenGL and CPU companies follow the x86 standard, they can be different in their implementations. For a simple example, Nvidia cards may be better as tessellation and so they will get developers to use heavier tessellation. Generally the difference is not massive, but it's enough to gain an edge. However, ATI could just as easily make special cases in their drivers to make the game run in a way that better suits their architecture. In fact, ATI's latest driver set (to be released in a few days) will allow you to set the maximum level of tessellation to forcefully prevent a game from using heavier tessellation than what an ATI card could handle.

As said above, the game probably will scale a bit better. Because the logo is there it doesn't mean its only there for the money. It's probably been optimized to take advantage of nvidia's few extra dx11 features including tess. But it shouldn't make much of a difference at all. Besides there are so many awesome ATI cards out there...
Although Nvidia's 580 GTX is apparently the fastest SINGLE GPU card out there right now.

If it runs well on nvidia, it runs well on AMD. They have to PURPOSELY mess up tessellation for AMD cards to run slower for example. How AMD and nvidia cards work with relation to dx11 is effectively the same, as long as you've programmed for dx11, you've programmed for both amd and nvidia cards.

As said above, the game probably will scale a bit better. Because the logo is there it doesn't mean its only there for the money. It's probably been optimized to take advantage of nvidia's few extra dx11 features including tess. But it shouldn't make much of a difference at all. Besides there are so many awesome ATI cards out there...
Although Nvidia's 580 GTX is apparently the fastest SINGLE GPU card out there right now.

If it runs well on nvidia, it runs well on AMD. They have to PURPOSELY mess up tessellation for AMD cards to run slower for example. How AMD and nvidia cards work with relation to dx11 is effectively the same, as long as you've programmed for dx11, you've programmed for both amd and nvidia cards.
It would be fair if all rigs got equal treatment. But if its in that case, I'm not buying from nvidia.

Its true about the catalyst 11.1 having "AMD optimized" tessellation feature, its easily seen in the 11.1a beta drivers i'm running now, (they offer quite an improvement in wars for my cfx setup), thing is though you shouldn't have to spoof your video adapter to make a game happy. I know the 580 is the single gpu champ and it would be pretty sweet to have one, lol but i don't and don't have any plans on buying one.

Nvidia/AMD!