What Happened to Europe?

Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:26 pm

Fallouts 1 & 2 are amazing games and the story's just amazing. I suddenly got interested with the missing link on the European Union in the story. So, I had a crazy idea of a mod which could take years to perfect.

Europe had forcefields which would shield a certain area from any foreign object. But a number of these forcefields were handed to a number of villages and towns across Europe. The only urban centers to use such are Manchester (UK), Copenhagen (Denmark), Strasbourg (France), Lisbon (Portugal), and the EU capital of Brussels (Flanders). The EU promised to shield all of Europe with the forcefields for fears of an upcoming nuclear war but had something notoriously hidden. The EU's main priority were the cities of Strasbourg which housed the Council of Europe and Brussels where the European Parliament stays. The villages and towns selected were either to appease citizens or for vile experimentation. However, only a number of EU cities were selected since the EU broke up after the oil depleted in the Mid-East. Nuclear war raged and outside the forcefields is a nuclear winter. Anyone outside cannot find the hidden towns.

Part 1:
In the year 2080, a certain villager in western France was told by the mayor that an outside world exists beyond the impenetrable mountain wall which is actually the forcefield. The mayor deactivates a part of the field for the Villager to explore the outside world in order to seek help. He ventures through the desolate France and is shocked to see mankind living outside the forcefields, trying to rebuild civilization with little technology. Picturesque Europe has become populated with shanty towns and the like. Also, a certain mutant breed coming from one experimented town is on the loose to make all people in Europe become mutated. The Lone Villager meets other kinds of people such as European Confederacy which is a break away faction from the European Union that would like to help Europeans rebuild civilization the same way it should have without a one European state and also ventures into the cities such as Cherbourg. He eventually after destroying the source of the mutants returns back to his village where he is congratulated.

Part 2:
But the Villager isn't pleased. He thinks that in order for humanity to survive, it must expand. He leaves his beloved village with a handful of people and eventually stop near what was once Flanders. Here he founds a village named Le Maison and raises a family but leaves eventually after his son's son has been born. Le Maison suffers from a widespread famine. The Villager's grandson is taked to return to the Villager's village to obtain some technology there for Le Maison to survive. He ventures back west but finds out that everyone in his ancestral village was taken by the European Union and that the only people here are European deathclaws and a handful of refugees. He gets back to Le Maison with the technology but is surprised that the European Union has also taken all the villagers. He then ventures East and comes across cities like Paris wherein half of the city had survived the war with the Eiffel Tower still standing; Antwerp wherein a small part of the city was obliterated and political parties such as the Socialist Party & the Vlaams Belang have revived & are now on a struggle (depending on the grandson's actions, one party will be the ruling party); Amsterdam wherein the city has fallen into anarchy and prostitution & crime are rampant; and eventually the EU capital of Brussels. The forcefield blocks the interior from being visible, showing an obliterated city, but the inside reveals a perfect haven in the European wasteland. The Grandson must free his fellow villagers and the villagers of his grandfather. Depending on his actions, he can destroy the whole city of Brussels, destroy the Berlaymont (the Euro Parliament), incite a rebellion amongst the unaware citizens, or topple the EU and leave the citizens leaderless, making them seek help from the ruling party in Antwerp.
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Alexandra Louise Taylor
 
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:38 am

Out of all the citys in the UK, why oh why would you pick such a [censored] hole, like manchester? London would make more sense, (i dont come from either so i cant really pass judgement)
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:26 pm

No Sweden? Dude!
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Laura Mclean
 
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:23 pm

Bethesda chose Vaults because Forcefields are incredible lame and they don't suit the whole vibe of Fallout.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:04 am

Out of all the citys in the UK, why oh why would you pick such a [censored] hole, like manchester? London would make more sense, (i dont come from either so i cant really pass judgement)

Because Manchester has good music :P I'd vote Manc for that reason alone. But yeah London would make alot more sense.


Bethesda chose Vaults because Forcefields are incredible lame and they don't suit the whole vibe of Fallout.

Bethesda didn't choose Vaults, Vaults were already there. How is a forcefield lame? :P Forcefields exsist in the Fallout universe, but judging by your first comment you haven't played the originals have you? No offense if you have, but you definitely don't sound like you have.

For one thing, Vaults were a result of the U.S government contracting Vault Tec for post-war preservation (with the sinister twist on experiments etc). Other regions of the world could have their own contigency plans. And a forcefield fits in perfectly with the 50's world of tomorrow genre.

Anyway, I'm not sure if the OP wanted his/her thread to be taken over for theorising :P
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:02 pm

You win. Cities entirely surrounded by forcefields still doesn't sound appealing to me though. It detracts from the whole post-apocolyptic wasteland vibe if there are complete untouched cities here and there.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Was this... A crappy FanFic?
A Roleplay Idea?


Anyways, no way Forcefields can stop NUKES.

Neither could Vaults if one hit it direct, exactly why they arent inside major cities.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:04 am

Was this... A crappy FanFic?
A Roleplay Idea?


Anyways, no way Forcefields can stop NUKES.

Neither could Vaults if one hit it direct, exactly why they arent inside major cities.



Checkmate.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:35 am

Was this... A crappy FanFic?
A Roleplay Idea?


Anyways, no way Forcefields can stop NUKES.

Neither could Vaults if one hit it direct, exactly why they arent inside major cities.


I'm going to have to agree. This isn't plausible and it's simply not Fallout. If there were places completely untouched by the bombs, wouldn't that kinda counteract the point of it being a post-apocalyptic rpg? And how on Earth did you come to the conclusion that they would have force-fields? There is no info on Europe, and it's unlikely that any Vaults were built there, so unless they had their own version of Vault-Tec, which is possible, everyone there is dead. Or Ghouls.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:59 pm

In my opinion most of Europe would end up as a lifeless wasteland - compared to the US, China or Russia, Europe is small, with a dense concentration of nuke-worthy targets. Which translate as 'bad news'.

Though if have no trouble imagining a pocket of less damaged real esate in Switzerland : neutral, and with the bunkers from the cold war era upgraded to Vault standard (they've got money). Having each and every dictator and other heavy hitter's secret bank account won't hurt either.

And once things settle down the alps make a nice defensible barrier against whatever mutated critters and other nasties would try to get in.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:09 pm

I was under the impression that the EU was disbanded and Europe was one big third world country after a war with the middle east. :-(
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:58 pm

germany has several abc-vaults across the whole country, be it governmental, public or private.
in munich and berlin for example whole metro stations were designed to work as a abc-vaults with space for about 3000 people. you can also find abc-vaults in several underground parking lots, other public buildings or even department stores (for example the KDW in berlin).
even if some or most of them aren't fit for service anymore, it wouldn't be a problem to refit'em for service, if need is prefigured.
all in all I would guess in germany are vaults for up to one million people...
and I don't think that germany is the only country in europe. especially france and the uk have many vaults as well, not to mention the whole former CCCP- and CIS-countries.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:00 pm

It all really depends on how EU is ruled. A collective parlament? Then this is somewhat plausable? Like its now? Then it would vary heavly for each country.

In my opinion most of Europe would end up as a lifeless wasteland - compared to the US, China or Russia, Europe is small, with a dense concentration of nuke-worthy targets. Which translate as 'bad news'.

Though if have no trouble imagining a pocket of less damaged real esate in Switzerland : neutral, and with the bunkers from the cold war era upgraded to Vault standard (they've got money). Having each and every dictator and other heavy hitter's secret bank account won't hurt either.

And once things settle down the alps make a nice defensible barrier against whatever mutated critters and other nasties would try to get in.



Do you live in US or do you? I really wonder. Its not that simple. Switzerland would no longer be neutral, simply because it picked a side(EU). As for your claim of small, you really got no idea. It varies to heavly its fun to compared the edges of the scale. Some places are more unbanized and some places have more city's. Some places have less city's and places like Norway we got a few citys and a BIG countryside. The thing is that EU is not centrally planed like the US, its every country in the union for themself in a way.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:30 pm

Grammatical Fail.
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Post » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:01 pm

Do you live in US or do you? I really wonder. Its not that simple. Switzerland would no longer be neutral, simply because it picked a side(EU). As for your claim of small, you really got no idea. It varies to heavly its fun to compared the edges of the scale. Some places are more unbanized and some places have more city's. Some places have less city's and places like Norway we got a few citys and a BIG countryside. The thing is that EU is not centrally planed like the US, its every country in the union for themself in a way.


I'm french - The orginal post's presentation left me with the impression it was centered on western europe (France-Germany-Benelux-UK-spain-italy), which is actually smaller and more densely populated - the european union has roughly half the USA's surface and one and a half the population - that's three times the population density. Norway and the other nordic countries are very different in that regard. To match the USA's surface, you need the whole europe in the 'continent' sense - that is east to the Ural.

Switzerland isn't yet into the EU, and in the case of Fallout's world, rising world tension wouldn't give them much of an incentive to join - the rest of Europe act as a bffer againt coventional attack, and staying neutrals means no nukes.
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