What mods do you use?

Post » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:53 pm

Damn. Forgot MWSE, also the FPS Optimizer. And the code patch.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:05 am

I keep making mods instead of playing the game. :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 am

@gaiusimperator, not picking holes but I do see you have a few conflicting mods plus the LGNPC series should load in a particular order.
Do a quick scan for recommended fixes etc with http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:15 am

Didn't someone compile a list of most used mods once by making people post their mod list?
Yep. Over here:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pad8xiny9wa9-Sp-NiLYYag

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=960565&hl=spreadsheet

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1041605&hl=spreadsheet


Hope that helps.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:20 am

GameFile3=TR_Data.esm
GameFile4=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile5=100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
GameFile6=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile7=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile8=AV_female_armor.esp
GameFile9=AV_fem_armor_Trib.esp
GameFile10=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile11=bcsounds.esp
GameFile12=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile13=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile14=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
GameFile15=BetterClothes_Patch.esp
GameFile16=Carry your Bedroll.esp
GameFile17=Changing Faces Replacer.esp
GameFile18=Clear Glass.esp
GameFile19=DB_Attack_Mod.esp
GameFile20=Dogs of Morrowind.esp
GameFile21=Gondoliers.esp
GameFile22=Healers.esp
GameFile23=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
GameFile24=Key Replacer MW.esp
GameFile25=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile26=KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp
GameFile27=k_weather.esp
GameFile28=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile29=LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp
GameFile30=LGNPC - Tel Mora.esp
GameFile31=lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp
GameFile32=lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp
GameFile33=lgnpc_HlaOad.esp
GameFile34=LGNPC_Indarys_Manor_v1_45.esp
GameFile35=lgnpc_MaarGan.esp
GameFile36=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile37=MWE_Base.esp
GameFile38=MWE_Journal.esp
GameFile39=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile40=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile41=Textured_Signs.esp
GameFile42=Westly Presents_Half Races of Tamriel.esp
GameFile43=Westly Presents_Half Races of Tamriel_X.esp
GameFile44=Westly's Female Head Pack-Humans.esp
GameFile45=Westly's Female Headpack - Elves and Orcs.esp
GameFile46=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
GameFile47=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
GameFile48=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile49=Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp

You guys use way too many mods o:
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:58 am

@gaiusimperator, not picking holes but I do see you have a few conflicting mods plus the LGNPC series should load in a particular order.
Do a quick scan for recommended fixes etc with http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox


Thank you, I just did, and it got quite a few errors out of it.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:30 am

Still working out the exacts of my build, but I mainly shoot for realism mods and enhancement mods. Once I get things cobbled together here I will toss my list for ya
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:01 am

You guys use way too many mods o:


Not really.
It may be hard to believe some MW players have had same character for years.
After you've completed the vanilla game a dozen or more times the faction and main quests tend to lose their appeal.
The use of difficulty enhancing, realism and multiple quest mods adds hugely to the game. If your picky and know about conflicts etc you can mod the game almost endlessly and avoid that scenario.
When you finish the main game you'll have grown fond of your character, a kind of attatchment if you like.
It's really hard to trash a long standing avatar. Trust me. :P
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:35 am

Not really.
It may be hard to believe some MW players have had same character for years.
After you've completed the vanilla game a dozen or more times the faction and main quests tend to lose their appeal.
The use of difficulty enhancing, realism and multiple quest mods adds hugely to the game. If your picky and know about conflicts etc you can mod the game almost endlessly and avoid that scenario.
When you finish the main game you'll have grown fond of your character, a kind of attatchment if you like.
It's really hard to trash a long standing avatar. Trust me. :P

yeah,I feel it like that,couldn?t describe it that good though,specially that about trashing a character,quite fond of my vampire even if it is some time since I saw her last.

Not that I have the most stable game,not at all,but it is part of the fun to try mods,and if the error report grows by miles then it is time to reduce it a bit at least :D
by all means no expert but it usually works out in the end,more stubborn than anything :)
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:16 am

If you think people here have too many mods then you haven't seen anything. Last time I played Morrowind I had almost 400 mods with a good deal of them merged together. I'm starting to get back into Morrowind again and will probably have even more mods especially now that there are better tools available.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:06 am

If you think people here have too many mods then you haven't seen anything.


Preaching to the choir, guy. Everybody in this thread has posted lists ranging from 40 to over 200 mods, and I suspect we're typical of most people in this forum, too.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:10 am

Cool kids use codebox. :brokencomputer:

004  RF - Furniture shop.esm005  Assassins Armory.esm006  Hilgya the Seamstress.esm007  Book Rotate.esm008  Better Heads.esm009  Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm010  Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm011  New Npc Replacer 3.50 (bloodmoon version).esm012  Beryl's_Head_Replacer_v1.0.esm013  MCA.esm014  Morrowind Patch v1.2.2.esm015  Havish.esm016  TR_Data.esm017  TR_Map1.esm018  TR_Map2.esm019  Rise of House Telvanni.esm020  Better Bodies.esp021  KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp022  shadowdancer.esp023  LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.esp024  Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp025  Louis_BeautyShop_v1.5.esp026  Unofficial_Expansion_for_Louis'_BeautyShop.esp027  UQFsMasterFacePack.esp028  DreadKnight.ESP029  Emma_highelf2.esp030  entertainers.esp031  ale_clothing_v0.esp032  ale_clothing_v1.esp033  adamantiumarmor.esp034  EBQ_Artifact.esp035  moons_soulgems.esp036  emma_bret_heads3.esp037  AreaEffectArrows.esp038  Siege at Firemoth.esp039  Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp040  Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp041  Emma_Imp_headp2.esp042  Emma_nord_heads.esp043  Clean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.esp044  NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp045  Bob's Armory 2.esp046  Elvenwear.esp047  Bob's Banners.esp048  abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp049  Wilderness Sounds T & B.esp050  k_weather.esp051  The Imperial Legion Badge.esp052  almalexia armor.esp053  tutorialQuest.esp054  TR_RR_House.ESP055  Emmas_breton_faces_1_0.esp056  VOORHEES_AldIndoril2.esp057  RF - Bethesda Furniture.esp058  Copy of HousesForSale.esp059  BAR_MournholdTeleportationFix.esp060  BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp061  Assassins Armory - Arrows.esp062  Complete Morrowind - Tribunal & Bloodmoon.esp063  Complete Morrowind TB & BM - Replacer.esp064  BM-Fixes.esp065  Riptides Face & Clothing Replace Final.esp066  balmorau.esp067  compslave.esp068  Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.esp069  Assassins Bastard Fix.esp070  Book Rotate - Morrowind v1.1.esp071  Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp072  Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp073  Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp074  SLA_Assassins_Leather.esp075  Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp076  Mournhold Expanded.esp077  subway.esp078  Better MCA 5.0 Lovesounds 1.0.esp079  ComprehensiveChargen.esp080  Havish Mini Patch.esp081  MCA - COV Addon.esp082  MCA v5.2 - Lore Correct Named NPC.esp083  ImprovedTeleportation2.0.esp084  The Shrine of Mephala by Westly.esp085  Clean Better Daedric.esp086  Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp087  sixy Glass Armor Mk.II Revamped.esp088  sixy Daedric Armor Mark II.esp089  Appropriate Greetings M - T - 1.5.2.esp090  LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp  (Version 0.83)091  LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp  (Version 1.10)092  LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)093  LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)094  Lgnpc_SN.esp  (Version 0.31)095  LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp  (Version 1.32)096  LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)097  LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp098  LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)099  LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)100  LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp  (Version 2.10)101  LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp  (Version 2.10)102  LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20_UI.esp  (Version 1.20)103  LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp  (Version 1.30)104  LGNPC_SecretMasters_MCA5.esp105  LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_50.esp  (Version 1.50)106  LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp  (Version 1.50)107  LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp  (Version 1.20)108  LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp  (Version 1.00)109  AK_PCClothier_Balmora_CS.esp110  Clean_AK_PCClothier_patch_v1.67.esp111  DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpDDBA.esp112  k_female_daedric_greaves.esp113  RoHT Havish Patch.esp114  indybank-NoHouses.esp115  GRM_Companion_Recall_Ring.esp116  Barons_Partners30.esp117  Scripted_Spells.esp118  Dulsya Isle.esp119  AEV_TCA.esp120  Uvirith Inside.esp121  Village Of Mora Uvirith.esp122  town_of_uvirith.esp123  Vampire_Embrace.esp124  Vampiric Hunger Base.esp125  Vampiric Hunger Extended.esp126  cattle_fix.esp127  RKWerewolf.esp128  Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp129  Vampiric Hunger - SU.esp130  Vampiric Hunger MGE Addon for MGE 1.11+.esp131  Vampire Embrace MCA Patch.esp132  MCA_Companions_Enhanced.esp133  Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp134  Merged_Objects.esp


I'm having a LOT of fun playing the clothier business mod. Feels like a Sims 2 business except it's Morrowind.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:53 am

Now I'm home here's my list. I use MGE, FPSOpt for 90 degree FOV, MWE, MCP and the exe optimizer (not really sure I need the last one these days).

Where's the scrolling code box button?? :embarrass:


001  Morrowind.esm002  Bloodmoon.esm003  Tribunal.esm004  Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm005  Beyond YsGramor v2.5.esm006  Veldion2.0.esm007  Morrowind Advanced.esm008  Better Heads.esm009  Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm010  Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm011  Assassins Armory.esm012  MW_Children_1_0.esm013  Weapon Rotate.esm014  Havish.esm015  Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esm016  Wizards Islands - Scourge of the Frost Bringer.esm  (Version 1.0)017  MCA.esm018  H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm  (Version 1.0)019  GDR_MasterFile.esm020  Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp021  Vality's Ascadian Isles Addon.esp022  Forested Morrowind.esp023  The Goblin Lab v1.1.esp024  vault_of_the_great_cat.esp025  Dread.esp026  AragonsBow.esp027  Theurgist.esp028  adamantiumarmor.esp029  EBQ_Artifact.esp030  Moons_Spawn_V1.3.3_Non_Patched.esp031  Ald_Ruhn_TG_Devil_Tanto_Tweak.esp032  Infernal SummoningV1.1.esp033  Healers.esp034  BC_Palla_Quest_Lite-Tribunal.esp035  GuildGuide_quest-Trib .esp  (Version 1.1)036  NPCMove.esp037  tusar_v1.2.1.esp038  tusar_v1.2.1(bloodmoon addon).esp039  mysticspath.esp040  DagonFel_Well_v2.esp041  Telos Rin Graveyard.esp042  BM-Fixes.esp043  the_lost_heir.esp044  The Catacombs Beneath Farlon Keep V1.0.esp045  Nemon's_Vivec_Interiorator.esp046  KRS_TAarmor_v1.2.esp047  Dulsya Isle.esp048  FiveToesGuild.esp049  The Clockwork Tower.esp050  ArchmagetowerTwo.esp051  werewolfrealism-moononly.esp052  SG_werewolfclans.esp053  NerevarArmor-v30.esp054  Fortified_Thirsk_1.1.esp055  Skaal Forest 1.0.esp056  Teleportation Spells.esp057  Lord of the Dragons v1.2.esp058  Arena & The Rusty Swordsman.esp059  Oluhan V1.13.esp060  Reign of Fire v1.92BETA.esp061  Tej?n's Fatigue Effects - Blackout.esp062  Tej?n's Fatigue Effects - Collapse.esp063  Peace and Tranquility.esp064  Dragonscale.esp065  Wizards_Islands_SotFB_Patch.esp066  Elders 0 Count NPC add-on (Trib & BM).esp067  Wizards_Islands_FPS_Fix.esp068  Wizards_Islands_BM_Patch.esp069  CM_Minor_Quests_1.2.esp070  TirThalor.esp071  Tir Thalor Quest.esp072  Tej?n's Fatigue Effects - Sleep!.esp073  ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp074  Apostates of Oblivion_2.1.esp075  DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpRanks.esp076  Clean Restored Artifacts.esp077  IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp078  Annastia Land Fix V3.3.esp079  Pyromancer v2.esp080  LGNPC_PAX_Redoran.esp081  TRIB_witchgirladvent1.esp082  SOLcodebook.esp083  FightersGuildReanimation.esp084  Mournhold Expanded COM NC.esp085  VOORHEES_AldIndoril2.esp086  Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp087  Lgnpc_SN.esp  (Version 0.31)088  Death's Doorstep.esp089  lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp090  lgnpc_khuul.esp  (Version 1.16)091  lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp092  lgnpc_HlaOad.esp093  LGNPC_Tel Mora_v1.02.esp094  lgnpc_AldVelothi.esp095  Clean Aldanna Isle.esp096  LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp097  LGNPC - Foreign Quarter v0.5.esp098  LGNPC_Indarys_Manor_v1_3.esp  (Version 1.3)099  LGNPC_Secret_Masters.esp100  BY_Patch_L1.5.esp101  JMNwolvesandfoxes.esp102  WolfCompwhite_ver3_0.esp103  snowwolfskirt.esp104  Ald Redaynia Extended.esp105  Illuminated Order v1.0.esp106  Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp107  Better Bodies.esp108  BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esp109  Weapon Rotate - Tribunal.esp110  Weapon Rotate - Vendors.esp111  Solstheim_mage_towerV3_0.esp112  Weapon Rotate - Bloodmoon.esp113  Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Tribunal) (Combined).esp114  MW_Adv_Required.esp115  MWE_Base.esp116  Balance - spells.esp117  MSWE ToggleSneak.esp118  MWE_Combat.esp119  Balance - NPC Spellcasting.esp120  MWE Dodge_Mod111.esp121  MWE_Armor_Effects2.1-halo.esp122  Balance - Magic Effects.esp123  MWE_Journal.esp124  Balance - Character.esp125  Balance - items.esp126  RealSignposts.esp127  Marksman Enhanced v1.2.esp128  Combat_For_Dummies.esp129  NPC Schedules - Locks.esp130  ACE_Subtitles.esp131  Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp132  ACE_Charge.esp133  TLM - Complete.esp134  ACE_Backstab.esp135  P.R.E. v4.0.esp136  MW_CultOfTheClouds_v10.esp137  Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp138  Mana_Regen_v13.esp139  Vertical limit climbing mod 1.02.esp140  AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp141  Apologies.esp  (Version 1.0)142  MissingBounds.esp143  Nymeria's Mages'guild fix.esp144  Clean Weapon Sheaths Ultimate.esp145  Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp146  Improved Inns.esp  (Version 1.01)147  Scripted_Spells.esp148  Vampire_Embrace.esp149  Vampire Realism II.esp  (Version 2.2)150  Vampire Realism II - BM Add-On.esp151  Vampire Realism II - TB Add-On.esp152  Vampire Realism II - VE Patch.esp153  Vampiric Hunger Base.esp154  Vampiric Hunger Extended.esp155  Vampiric Hunger MGE Addon for MGE 1.11+.esp156  Diablerie.esp  (Version 1.0)157  Diablerie_MWSE_AddOn.esp  (Version 1.0)158  farrp_WeaponCompilationMod_V2.esp159  Balmora Expansion v1.4.esp  (Version 1.2)160  Classes.esp161  Ald-Vendras_V31-LoKKen.esp162  Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.esp163  Hunt Cliff Racers to Extinction II.esp164  RKCriminals TR&BM.esp165  Daedric Sorcery.esp  (Version 1.2)166  Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp167  vn_lichcraft2.esp168  Thirsk Expanded.esp169  Stormbringer.esp170  Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp171  Suran Archery Store_v3.0.esp172  Suran_Underworld_tweak01.esp173  horationpcenhanced12-ve.esp174  MWE_MagickaSpells.esp175  TML_LongbowOfTheElements_v11.esp176  ME_ArcaneGuard.esp177  Combined_dungeons.esp178  Dans Dungeons.esp179  Cult of the Talosec.esp180  Riptides Face & Clothing Replace Final.esp181  LGNPC_Vivec_Redoran_v1_2.esp  (Version 1.2)182  Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp183  New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp184  New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp185  Order of the Phoenix-v1.0.esp186  CalderaFightClubClean.esp187  Creatures.esp188  Great House Dagoth.esp  (Version 1.04)189  Great House Dagoth ( Master Index Compatibility ).esp190  Creatures Great House Dagoth Patch.esp191  propylons1.1.esp192  Booty.esp193  MCA - Guards Patch.esp194  MCA - Vampire Realism Patch.esp195  MCA v5.2 - Lore Correct Named NPC v1.1.esp196  Havish - Scimitar Update.esp197  Thieves Guild Fences.esp198  PB_Dagoth_Bonemold.esp199  Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp  (Version 1.1)200  Sandman101's W.P.L.&M.H.esp201  Tel Nechim.esp202  MW_Public_Library.esp203  Balmora Council Club.esp204  DN-GDRv1.esp205  New Suran.esp206  GS_SEYDA NEEN COMPLETE.esp207  Maar_Gan_Extended.esp208  Beyond YsGramor v2.5.1.esm.esp209  Clean Tales of Seyda Neen.esp210  Seyda_Neen_tweaks1.esp211  Tales of the Bitter Coast.esp212  Haldenshore_1.2.esp213  TC_PuzzleCanol.esp214  Beds4Rent.esp215  DB_Attack_Mod.esp216  Nolore_Fixes.esp217  CharGen_Revamped_v14.esp218  Galsiahs Character Development.esp219  GCD - Cult of the Clouds patch.esp220  GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp221  GCD TEO compatibility patch.esp222  CharGen Revamped delay2.esp223  GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp224  GCD_Havish_patch.esp225  GCD_SS_patch.esp226  GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp227  Aduls_Advanced_Combat_Base.esp228  Merged_Objects.esp229  CR Gnisis Expanded 1.0.esp230  DN_1st_Person_bodies.esp231  DN_1st_Person_Armor.esp232  H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Complete WeaponsLASTEDITS.esp233  MCA - H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Wicked Weapons.esp234  Antares' Big Mod 5.esp235  Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.esp236  UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp237  Dremora Markynaz.esp238  Gatanas Markynaz Dremora Companion - Female.esp239  NX9_dremora.esp240  NX9_lesserdaedra.ESP241  The Sable Dragon 1.5.esp  (Version 1.5)242  FAP Low Chance.esp243  NX9_liches.esp244  NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP245  KWM Hortator Artifacts.esp246  Mashed Lists.esp


Haven't done much tidying of late but it's stable.

PS - this particular load order has been built over the 4 odd years I've been playing. I shake my head to think at the amount of time I've spent setting it up. Not included are many texture replacers and generated grass esps for the entire island and every landmass addon (except I think BM).


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Post » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:57 pm

083 FightersGuildReanimation.esp

I installed this one too but so far I haven't done any of the quests yet. How is it?
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:26 am

Where's the scrolling code box button??


Button I don't know about--but if you type {codebox} content {/codebox}, substituting square brackets, of course, you'll get what you want.
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:44 am

Button I don't know about--but if you type {codebox} content {/codebox}, substituting square brackets, of course, you'll get what you want.

Yo dawg, to show your brackets we put your [codebox ] in a [/codebox ] so you can bracket your brackets.

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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:54 am

Yo dawg, to show your brackets we put your [codebox ] in a [/codebox ] so you can bracket your brackets.


Didn't feel like doin' it that way. Got a problem wit' my explanation, goldenrod punk? ;) :D
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Post » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:42 am

I installed this one too but so far I haven't done any of the quests yet. How is it?



Quite enjoyable. I don't think I've finished all the quests, these are based out of Ald-Ruhn IIRC. I have been through all the CalderaFightClub quests however also by Cixe. Not over powering, add a nice number of additional quests that I did in the 5 to 15 level range (not doing with MQ with this character). It was some months ago but don't remember any issues other than the basic cleaning of the mod of the 72 GMSTs.

So I'd recommend them both as they flesh things out quite nicely and allow for a good and relatively interesting way to advance a fighters guild character.

:)
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