DLC Possibility: Becoming king

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:50 am

So I was in Solitude, questing for Elisif (The widow of the High King) and (this may be a bug) and she greeted me how a Marriage option would. Now I've checked and you obviously can't marry her but that got me thinking, what if you could? That would make you High King of Skryim (which would be kickass). I'm sure most people would love that.

If you were with the empire than you could marry Elisif and become king. I also had an idea that during the siege of Solitude on the Stormcloak side, what if Ulfric was about to be killed and you had the option to save him or let him die and take his place.

Once you are king then whole loads of new quest opportunities opens up. If you became king by marrying Elisif perhaps there was an option to leave the Empire or vice versa with the Stormcloaks. What if the Falmer started terrorizing towns and became a real threat. Rebellions against your rule could happen randomly in cities and towns. You could appoint new Jarls from your followers. If you became king from the Stormcloak side, you could choose a queen (or maybe have Elisif killed and just grab a hotter wife XD).

Maybe I let my mind run away or I've been playing too much Mount and Blade but I think it would be a cool!
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Jon O
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:36 am

As if it isn't obvious, neither Titus mead or Ulfric Stormcloak could wear the Amulet of Kings.
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Kevin S
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:32 am

The amulet of kings was destroyed, besides that shows being Emperor, I'm only talking about being King of Skyrim

Also if we weren't with the Empire could we maybe have the option to conquer lands in Skyrim's name?!?!?
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Ian White
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:13 am

The king of skyrim that runs around catching butterflies and struggles to fight the onslaught of the mudrabs.
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Tessa Mullins
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:05 am

hereby retconning the stormcloaks storyline completely.
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cassy
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:56 pm

hereby retconning the stormcloaks storyline completely.


Yes that would screw over lore quite a bit but I would assume the explanation in the next game would be

"The Dragonborn then led a great army to conquer Skyrim, but his bloodline could not sustain his kingdom and the Imperials reconquered Skyrim"

So it doesn't specify quite how he came to power, only that he did.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:11 am

You won't become king.

The heroes in TES games have always been anonymous to a point - The blades agent, the Nerevarine, the champion of Cyrodiil, Sheogorath and the dragonborn. None have been mentioned by name because none of them should be mentioned by name, since this implies that the Elder Scrolls have a certain control over the agent of fate, though this is not actually true.

The player is this agent of fate, recorded in history as person whom everyone remembers but no one knows, an entity which is connected to the Elder Scrolls but stands alone nonetheless.

At least, this is my take on the player character. It exists, but not in the same way the rest of the world does. For some reason i get the feeling that if the agent of fate ever chose to become known directly by name and take control of a part of Nirn, the world would simply collapse...




But, more to the point, the way Bethesda treated the player character in the lore is good. Since those figures never got known by name, they can stay in canon and still be remembered by the players as *theirs*. If the dragonborn could become king of Skyrim, this would change.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:01 am

I always thought the Elder Scrolls foretold of the events and the hero of the game was tied to those events, he was the one who decided the outcomes.

I saw the Elder Scrolls as the paper, and the player as the author.

Also the character was pretty well known in Oblivion, people would always hail you as the Champion of Cyrodil
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:22 pm

Wouldn't this mess up the Lore of certain things, besides I don't think it'd be a good idea if the Dragonborn would become King.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:52 am

Well I mean it doesn't have to be the Dragonborn exactly.

I doubt the Champion of Cyrodil was also Arch-Mage, Guild Master of the Fighter's Guild, the Gray Fox, A knight of the nine, and Sheogorath
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:06 am

As if it isn't obvious, neither Titus mead or Ulfric Stormcloak could wear the Amulet of Kings.

Amulet of Kings no longer exists.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:39 am

I have no interest in being High King.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:30 am

Well I mean it doesn't have to be the Dragonborn exactly.

I doubt the Champion of Cyrodil was also Arch-Mage, Guild Master of the Fighter's Guild, the Gray Fox, A knight of the nine, and Sheogorath

It is actually lore that the CoC became Sheogorath (one of the reasons he disappeared from history at a certain point). Haskill even said the more time he spent as Sheogorath the more he would turn into him. He even talks about being there when Martin broke the Amulet, and about a "Fox".
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:42 am

I have no interest in being High King.


I suppose it depends of your RP style. My first character was a battlemage who didn't want glory, so he just settled down in Markarth and was del-err I mean married and lived a simple life

My new character is an ass who loves a battle and riches and fame
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:25 am

I always thought the Elder Scrolls foretold of the events and the hero of the game was tied to those events, he was the one who decided the outcomes.

I saw the Elder Scrolls as the paper, and the player as the author.

Also the character was pretty well known in Oblivion, people would always hail you as the Champion of Cyrodil


That's exactly what i meant :)

Well, sort of.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:15 pm

It is actually lore that the CoC became Sheogorath (one of the reasons he disappeared from history at a certain point). Haskill even said the more time he spent as Sheogorath the more he would turn into him. He even talks about being there when Martin broke the Amulet, and about a "Fox".


Well I could imagine him being Sheogorath and maybe one of the guild masters, but not all of them.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:30 am

Personally, I'd hate that. I despise the typical Elder Scrolls system of making you the leader of everything.
These games are supposed to be all about making the type of character you want, and I happen to like playing lone wolf type characters. But every stupid major quest winds up making you the grand ruler of something.
Every guild quest line ever, The Shivering Isles... I'm certain there were others but I can't recall them offhand.
It's also a big part of why I hated Fable 3.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:59 am

"Great Leaders Are Made, Not Born"

Marshall Goldsmith
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:40 pm

None of you have any fire or ambition and would let some pretenders take the throne while you settle for nothing. Your Oblivion character became a god, why would you settle for anything less now?
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:23 am

I'd like to be Jarl of Whiterun. Hold feasts in my hall, shack up with that dark hottie from the bar. Hmmm...
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:43 pm

I did feel that the end of the Rebellion / Empire questlines hinted at future DLC material.
One where we take the fight to the Thalmor.

Also, the CoC was all those things. He specifically mentions them in Skyrim.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:02 am

Becoming a High King, or at least a Jarl, is something I'd definitely be interested in. I just don't have any confidence in it being deep or meaningful enough to be satisfying. Is anyone really happy with how being a guild leader works right now? You get to do repeatable quests, and there isn't much 'respectful dialogue', most NPC's pretend like you had just joined that faction, showing no deference.

I can just imagine becoming High King and then some Solitude guard says 'Watch yourself, newcomer. I've got my eye on you...'
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:44 pm

Personally, I'd hate that. I despise the typical Elder Scrolls system of making you the leader of everything.
These games are supposed to be all about making the type of character you want, and I happen to like playing lone wolf type characters. But every stupid major quest winds up making you the grand ruler of something.
Every guild quest line ever, The Shivering Isles... I'm certain there were others but I can't recall them offhand.
It's also a big part of why I hated Fable 3.

Agreed. For this reason:

What's the point? We're not going to be dabbling in politics, signing treaties, declaring war, enforcing law, delegating responsibilities, or holding ceremonies. Being king and having power and authority isn't something some idiot plays at for a couple minutes a week before he goes off exploring random caves and saving kittens out of trees, it's pretty much a full lifetime commitment.

It's why I've never been too keen on the PC becoming head of any of the factions. Because the games were just never designed to support the kind of macro-managing that those occupations require.

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