(PC) Disappointed

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:26 pm

I had been looking forward to this game since it was announced. Obviously, anyone who plays this game on the very first day at midnight was anxiously awaiting it. I loved Oblivion and Morrowind. But, this game feels like an Xbox game more than a computer game unlike its predecessors. I know it is a Port. I get that, but after playing 4 hours the game is lacking in my eyes.

Yes, the graphics are great - playing on High Settings. I love being able to dual wield and combine spells. But, the UI is utter garbage. The Map is complete crap. The open questing and exploring is almost too much which might not be so with a better UI quest/map system. The melee combat system is still poor.

I understand that the Mods will help this game, but seriously Bethesda needs to help the PC game and clean up the UI not its paying customers.

All in all, I give the game a 81 out of 100. I was hoping for a 95 rating. I was hoping for something that I would be engrossed in instead I feel like I want to log out every 10 minutes. I guess I'll wait for the Mods because they already stole my money with hype.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:45 pm

Great terrific.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:40 pm

So your main complaint is about a un-optimized UI? I can't speak much to this because I bought a wireless xbox 360 adapter to play on the PC, but with one the game is stunning, fluent, and just pure fun. To pass judgement on something that could be fixed with patches (or mods), doesn't do justice to the game. Luckily this is an RPG and not a melee combat hack'n'slash. I love it the way it is.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 9:25 pm

Is 4 hours really enough to give it a final rating just yet? Keep playing it. Sure there are shortcomings but I think a few little things you wish had changed but didn't are holding you back from really appreciating all the advancements.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:42 pm

"The open questing and exploring is almost too much"

:facepalm:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:28 am

Is 4 hours really enough to give it a final rating just yet? Keep playing it. Sure there are shortcomings but I think a few little things you wish had changed but didn't are holding you back from really appreciating all the advancements.

Maybe so... I don't want to have to buy an Xbox controller to play the game fluidly. It is bad enough that I have to use Steam who recently had their files compromised by a hacker. Of course, I'll keep plodding along and hoping the scenery and storyline make up for the UI limitations...
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:11 pm

Maybe so... I don't want to have to buy an Xbox controller to play the game fluidly. It is bad enough that I have to use Steam who recently had their files compromised by a hacker. Of course, I'll keep plodding along and hoping the scenery and storyline make up for the UI limitations...

If you did some digging, there are ways around using Steam to play the game. Quite simple really. Secondly, are you referring to the PSN hacker? I hadn't heard about Steam. And thirdly, I'm sure there will be patches and if not mods to fix the UI.

The essence of the game is fine. The UI has a shortcoming. I wouldn't berate the *game* for a technical problem that can be overcome.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:26 am

"The open questing and exploring is almost too much"

:facepalm:

Awesome troll job... why don't you continue to shorten the sentence and pick and choose the context of my words anyway you wish...

You could say...

"almost too much" - Dude get a job its only $50.

I was referencing the open questing and exploring as pertaining to the UI/map system. It makes the game less fluid - PC-wise without an Xbox controller.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:11 pm

. The open questing and exploring is almost too much which might not be so with a better UI quest/map system.


I dare you to make less sense

What are you trying to say here?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:36 pm

I don't want to sound like: "Skyrim Suc#€ Bethesda its a bi#~h"
But i kinda disagree with them for not making a PC game and then port it to consoles. The Elder Scrolls are a game that exist thanks to PC, and PC allows them to make better engines and graphics. Look at Battlefield 3 or The Witcher. That's the path they should have taken in my opinion. Hope next time they don't do the same again. And more important, whatever path the choose, they must take serious amount of time to make a great UI for consoles and PC.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:26 pm

I dare you to make less sense

What are you trying to say here?

Let's all relax. He is entitled to his own opinion. He thinks the UI hinders his questing experience. I can understand, but lets keep the feedback constructive. I suggested he get a 360 controller or wait for patches. Seems simple enough.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:36 pm

The only thing I agree with the OP is regarding the PC UI. It's clearly designed for controllers, then Beth was like, "Oh [censored]! 12 hours to ship and we forgot to modify the UI for the PC!"
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:41 pm

Is 4 hours really enough to give it a final rating just yet? Keep playing it. Sure there are shortcomings but I think a few little things you wish had changed but didn't are holding you back from really appreciating all the advancements.


Well you must admit 4 hours is more time than the majority of these professional "Game Reviewers" give the game before spouting off 100% scores.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:44 pm

Awesome job


Why thank you, kind sir!!! :foodndrink:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:34 pm

Let's all relax. He is entitled to his own opinion. He thinks the UI hinders his questing experience. I can understand, but lets keep the feedback constructive. I suggested he get a 360 controller or wait for patches. Seems simple enough.


lol
Why did you quote me? You think I'm bashing somebody?

Firstly, I am not angry or tense. Are you often wrong in assessments of what people's emotions are, or are you just unlucky today?

The sentence I quoted makes no rational sense:

The open questing and exploring is almost too much which might not be so with a better UI quest/map system


Read it, my mediating friend. The sentence indicates that the 'questing and exploring' is 'almost too much', and then an attempt is made to link that to a better UI. OK, so...what is almost "too much" about it? Orienting yourself in the gameworld due to difficulty with the map UI? Well, I don't know, because the sentence makes no sense.

For your further enlightenment, the phrase "I dare you to make less sense" is an in-joke that some people might get. You don't. I'm not really sorry :tongue:

Since what I read was confusing and nonsensical, I followed that up with:

What are you trying to say here?

It is interesting to me that in my professional life, I deal with a range of humanity from intelligent and precise people to agitated and ignorant people all day long, face to face, on the telephone, and via e-mail with no troubles being understood, but I go to a game forum, and suddenly, the way I communicate is a problem.

I am sure a cosmic joke resides in the situation
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:23 pm

lol
Why did you quote me? You think I'm bashing somebody?

Firstly, I am not angry or tense. Are you often wrong in assessments of what people's emotions are, or are you just unlucky today?

The sentence I quoted makes no rational sense:



Read it, my mediating friend. The sentence indicates that the 'questing and exploring' is 'almost too much', and then an attempt is made to link that to a better UI. OK, so...what is almost "too much" about it? Orienting yourself in the gameworld due to difficulty with the map UI? Well, I don't know, because the sentence makes no sense.

For your further enlightenment, the phrase "I dare you to make less sense" is an in-joke that some people might get. You don't. I'm not really sorry :tongue:

Since what I read was confusing and nonsensical, I followed that up with:



It is interesting to me that in my professional life, I deal with a range of humanity from intelligent and precise people to agitated and ignorant people all day long, face to face, on the telephone, and via e-mail with no troubles being understood, but I go to a game forum, and suddenly, the way I communicate is a problem.

I am sure a cosmic joke resides in the situation

Again, relax. It seems as though you are now tense, and you are bashing someone. Why so defensive? Forums are completely text based, and therefore most humans have no way of detecting sarcasm, a mocking tone, anger, or any other type of emotion. It's funny you said you are not mad, nor are you here to mock or bash anyone, but you make a wall of text to do just that.
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 12:29 am

Again, relax. It seems as though you are now tense, and you are bashing someone. Why so defensive? Forums are completely text based, and therefore most humans have no way of detecting sarcasm, a mocking tone, anger, or any other type of emotion. It's funny you said you are not mad, nor are you here to mock or bash anyone, but you make a wall of text to do just that.


lol. You're a special treat. You're not even close to being right, but you're a special treat

oh, re: the wall of text. :rofl:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:14 am

lol. You're a special treat. You're not even close to being right, but you're a special treat

oh, re: the wall of text. :rofl:

And you further prove my point. You are completely trolling right now. Read what you have written. At first you pretty much bash the OP, then you say you weren't bashing him and don't mean to troll, all the while trolling me....and now you continue your immature crusade of calling me a "special treat" while laughing at something that isn't even remotely funny.

I'm not sure why you are coming off as hostile on a forum. Perhaps it's because there are no real-life repercussions for acting like a fool and putting someone down. At the end of the day you are just a person behind a keyboard that really doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things. I could care less about you and your need to berate others to get a laugh.

Have a great day. Hope you are enjoying Skyrim.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:57 pm

I had been looking forward to this game since it was announced. Obviously, anyone who plays this game on the very first day at midnight was anxiously awaiting it. I loved Oblivion and Morrowind. But, this game feels like an Xbox game more than a computer game unlike its predecessors. I know it is a Port. I get that, but after playing 4 hours the game is lacking in my eyes.

Yes, the graphics are great - playing on High Settings. I love being able to dual wield and combine spells. But, the UI is utter garbage. The Map is complete crap. The open questing and exploring is almost too much which might not be so with a better UI quest/map system. The melee combat system is still poor.

I understand that the Mods will help this game, but seriously Bethesda needs to help the PC game and clean up the UI not its paying customers.

All in all, I give the game a 81 out of 100. I was hoping for a 95 rating. I was hoping for something that I would be engrossed in instead I feel like I want to log out every 10 minutes. I guess I'll wait for the Mods because they already stole my money with hype.


COOL STORY BRO
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:25 pm

Oh, neat. Another dude complaining about meaningless crap that can just be modded down the line anyway.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:11 pm

Again, relax. It seems as though you are now tense, and you are bashing someone. Why so defensive? Forums are completely text based, and therefore most humans have no way of detecting sarcasm, a mocking tone, anger, or any other type of emotion. It's funny you said you are not mad, nor are you here to mock or bash anyone, but you make a wall of text to do just that.

And you further prove my point. You are completely trolling right now. Read what you have written. At first you pretty much bash the OP, then you say you weren't bashing him and don't mean to troll, all the while trolling me....and now you continue your immature crusade of calling me a "special treat" while laughing at something that isn't even remotely funny.

I'm not sure why you are coming off as hostile on a forum. Perhaps it's because there are no real-life repercussions for acting like a fool and putting someone down. At the end of the day you are just a person behind a keyboard that really doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things. I could care less about you and your need to berate others to get a laugh.

Have a great day. Hope you are enjoying Skyrim.

You started out alright, but quickly vacated your seat of neutrality when you started belittling the guy for participating in a discussion. You single him out as an instigator when he asks for clarification on one of the OP's points, albeit delivered with some tongue-in-cheek humor. The guy bothers to explain his intent to you in plain English and you again jump to conclusions about his intent, further goading him by suggesting some sort of elevation of emotion. He laughs you off and you, once again, kick up the defensive and resort to direct insults, which I might add are poorly veiled in self-righteousness, then try to put a band-aid over it by fervently declaring neutrality.

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Contributing to the discussion based on my experiences, I have to agree with the OP regarding how.. cumbersome the game is to manage, by comparison to previous titles. Yes, there's plenty of time and care put into the game, though it's just very surprising that considering the uproar raised over it, they couldn't be bothered to do extensive public testing the interface on one of the three most financially important important systems of their launch. Your interface is one of the key pillars of a game, you can't just taper down its priority on the "to-do" list, because the player is using it, in some capacity or another, 100% of the time. Of all the varied factors a designer has to try and consider with regards to the end-user's enjoyment, it's hard to imagine the majority willing to settle on their ability to interact with the world they're expecting to explore in great detail.

Common knowledge that this is an unabashed console port at this point, and -also- that they have the capability to make much needed changes after launch, yes, but honestly what drives the majority of those changes is the raising of voices within the player base. Enough noise gets the attention of a company to do something about it; that's common business practice, and frankly it should be -desired- so the manufacturer can continue bettering their product(s) to meet the needs/desires of the customer. It's just so frustrating how self destructive it can be to the product during the early stages of its life.

But honestly that's an argument that is, again, shining the light on the overarching issue of the general standards for release candidates being lowered. The convenience that after-market quick fixes bring, with regards to the delivery system anyway not necessarily the public reception, is a dangerous tool often over-used for the sake of pandering to producer/shareholder patience and deadlines. This is just a problem that's going to continue to tear away at the development process until we start to see more companies create successes while not sacrificing quality; an extremely difficult task in this age of such high-dollar projects.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:49 pm

I don't want to sound like: "Skyrim Suc#€ Bethesda its a bi#~h"
But i kinda disagree with them for not making a PC game and then port it to consoles. The Elder Scrolls are a game that exist thanks to PC, and PC allows them to make better engines and graphics. Look at Battlefield 3 or The Witcher. That's the path they should have taken in my opinion. Hope next time they don't do the same again. And more important, whatever path the choose, they must take serious amount of time to make a great UI for consoles and PC.

I have to say that the Witcher 2 was a far far greater disappointment
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:14 am

The open questing and exploring is almost too much
Are you sure, that's the best thing about the game.... FREEDOM
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:46 pm

Are you sure, that's the best thing about the game.... FREEDOM

His issue isn't with the content -available-, if I'm not mistaken, but the means with which he has to chronicle, track and explore it. As I understand, it's primarily a PC-issue due to the interface not being optimized for the system.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:20 am

So your main complaint is about a un-optimized UI? I can't speak much to this because I bought a wireless xbox 360 adapter to play on the PC, but with one the game is stunning, fluent, and just pure fun. To pass judgement on something that could be fixed with patches (or mods), doesn't do justice to the game. Luckily this is an RPG and not a melee combat hack'n'slash. I love it the way it is.

Why should people be forced to rely on modders to make an actual pc friendly ui that they should have gotten from the company they paid for the game? And the ui is something you use constantly...a HUGE part of the game.
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