Let me start off by saying that I've greatly enjoyed every TES game and my hat is off to Bethesda for making some amazing games over the years. With that said, I have some gripes about Skyrim. I've been playing the game since the release and while I love the new engine, character models, and gorgeous environments they have stripped out too much of the role playing elements. What happened to the character attributes like strength, luck, intelligence? The character customization besides race and looks is almost zero. I feel Bethesda dumbed down too many of the essential RPG elements. Even the quests themselves have been made too easy and I am not talking about the difficulty setting. If I need a spell or an item to complete a quest that spell or item in question shouldn't be just sitting on a table next to the final goal. Joining the Mages College is way too easy and they even offer to sell you the spell you need to cast for entry. Anyone can join, even a stupid brute Orc. How about forcing the player to find said spell and/or require a certain level of spell casting (intelligence if it was in the game) to enter. Most of the puzzles in the dungeons are extremely simple and don't really require any thought. I saddened by this disappointing console port trend, I feel I have a diluted Action/RPG game with an ugly skill tree and not the immersive and customizable RPG experience I'd expect from Bethesda.

I can only hope that Bethesda doesn't continue this trend with their other beloved titles like Fallout. I understand there is now a larger audience on the consoles than ever before and Bethesda is a business that needs to sell products. But don't do this to your devoted fans on the PC, if it wasn't for PC gaming TES wouldn't be one of the most highly rated series of games ever created. I would rather wait another 3 months and even pay more for a refined PC version rather than a slipshod unified release. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Well, I have to ask..did you not know these things before you bought the game?

No you are not the only one, I love the game but I agree with you. Sadly this is the route gaming has taken now, the money is with the "casual" players on console apparently.

I love to hate it and hate to love it..............

If only there was a company that could make good quality games devoted specifically to the PC. Consoles hold back gaming, but you make more money selling console games.

I was going to buy it anyway because Bethesda has always impressed me with the TES series and I've played them all. I'm just disappointed in their departure from a what they set as a the gold standard for computer RPGs. I knew it would be a console port, all games coming out these days are (Dead Island, Rage, etc.) but I never thought Bethesda would remove character stats like Strength, luck, etc. They are fundamental building block for RPGs.

Give it a few months and mods will have fixed most of the issues.

The game is great, but I agree - especially about the RPG elements. Character development feels far too simplistic and overly reliant on perks.

I thought the PC gamers (like myself) had an argument to make, until I saw the console sales. I have to face it, Bethesda would be fools not to make games that make the console players happy.

At least I can MOD my game to my taste.

Somewhere at ZeniMax...

Gstaff: Why we don't make a exclusive PC version!? Some people would love it and we could show our FULL potential!

Pete Hines: But then we would just make what? 1/4 of the sales?

Gstaff: We could lower everyone's wages to a minimum wage and release a free Modder's Tool-Set so that everyone could do our job for free!

Todd: GTFO!

Lol this is the only reason why I bought the game on PC. Can't wait for ENBseries textures

Amen! If they can do anything close to what they did for Morrowind and Oblivion it will be amazing. Maybe something like Project Nevada (Project Tamriel anyone, I'm willing to donate funds) to fix other various inconsistencies.

Without a PC optomization patch, won't Hi-Rez texture mods turn Skyrim into a slide show? I have a GTX 580, and it barely runs it at acceptible framerates with horrid textures. Some say that shadows are handled by the CPU, but what about textures? I've heard that alot that stuff was decompressed in realtime as the game is loading it. That sounds CPU intensive to me.

First I'm a 31yr old console guy. I've never had luck or time to learn to mod or anything else like that on pc. Did play fallout 3 on pc and console. Pc can be Aggravating with sound cards, video cards, RAM and so forth. Console is so much simpler. yet technology is so far advanced y they can't make it the way a rpg should really be idk. In my opinion they are not shooting for console only more less the gamer that doesn't wanna think. That just buys a game to play. I buy rpg games for the depth and longevity. Go buy mw3 or gears of war or any other game like that and 8-10hrs later u have beating story mode. Now what? Online? Yeah it's fun when u get into a good group but still lacks to me. This is why u are getting a watered down rpg. For the lazy gamer. The ones who would like to just pick from 3 categories and the pick a perk. So so so disappointed it the shallowness of the rpg end. What happened to weapons armor and everything else that weathered with time and use. Every weapon and armor I have is invincible yet I still take damage.

Don't get me wrong graphic are top notch. Map so/so. Ai seems okish. But overall in MY OPINION I give it a 7 out of 10.

Thanx fir listening

the game is fine for me.. Let us remember Bethesda, is known for their worlds they create Big and open, they have never been known for charector mechanics to be painfully honest.. I can enjoy the game, allot as long as I am not comparing it to demonsouls or darksouls, or other rpg's out there that focus more on crafting, etc. etc. I also highly doubt casual gamers are playing skyrim, if they are its accidental... I still to this day cannot understand why so much food is in this game, or any other Bethesda game, when their is nothing forcing us to eat or sleep in the game... It almost looks like at one time they ACTUALLY wanted to make us have to eat, but changed their minds more then half way thru the making of the game.

Fixed it for you.

In TES2 you had maybe some hundred millions of character variations. It's gone down radically, Skyrim hitting the new low of 20. You can pick your six, and race. That's it. We had millions, millions! Now twenty. Think about it.

I usually make a character who can't cast spells at all, OR a true mage. I was furious when TES4 forced me to spellcaster no matter what. Those knuckleheads didn't fix this huge mistake for some reason.

Now there is NO way of giving my character any weakness whatsoever. Good old days we had phobias, inability to regen mana and a chance to gimp some of you attributes if you wished. My spellcasters were usually weaklings, barbarians usually a bit slow in the head. Most of my characters had phobia for undead, since I know I would. Morrowind flushed the dis/advantage system down the toilet, giving us weak and meaningless birthsigns. I have power over my character no more.

Now when I make 2 Nords in Skyrim, they are identical. I spend 100 hours in my first char and get him to the point he might be called a knight without lying too much. Heavy armour and 2-handed skills, with smithinhg. Great. Then I get bored and want to create me a mage. Again back to character creation, firing up a perfect clone of my lvl 1 Knight with different name and face, then spend another 100 hours to build this new guy into something that can be called a mage. That's not my idea of character creation. Tabula rasa over and over again, painstakingly developing them into whatever you want. TES4 had that damn tutorial dungeon everyone hated. In time, this might get even worse. Thank god for console commands, I guess I will be upping my "primary skills" with it while gimping all the rest. That's my new character creation process. Cheating.

Edit: by the way, there's a link to some old suggestions thread. I stopped updating my ideas when it got obvious that they rather continue simplifying. You'll find out I put lot of thought into character creation.

Skyrim is the best single-player game I've ever played, and one of the best games I've ever played (RuneScape is just a bit above it due to the online element). I honestly prefer the way they went in Skyrim.

I'm running an i5-2500k, 8GB ram with a AMD HD6970, all settings maxed out at 1920x1080, 4xAA, 16xAF, v-sync on. My frame rates rarely ever drop below 60, you might want to check your system or video drivers because you should be getting perfect frame rates with a GTX 580.