I'm scared to level up smithing now

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:02 am

I'm about level 15 and I'm playing a warrior type character. I have no desire to level up enchanting or alchemy, but what I'm hearing around the net and forums is that blacksmithing alone makes you overpowered (even on Master Difficulty). I love this game, and I do not want to be level 50 and being able to one shot dragons. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire about the topic below, but I genuinely am curious about wether blacksmithing alone makes the game not fun anymore.Thank you.
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Jack
 
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Absolutely not.
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Lisa
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:31 pm

Absolutely not.

Thank you for the response. I guess the combination of enchanting + BS makes you super overpowered?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:02 am

I only leveled black smith completely, I can 5-8 shot a dragon in less then a few seconds beware
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:43 am

I only leveled black smith completely, I can 5-8 shot a dragon in less then a few seconds beware

On what difficulty? See...that is what I don't want lol. I want to feel as if I'm getting better as I level, but not to a insane point.
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Noely Ulloa
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:59 am

Smithing alone I'd never say OP, cause what makes you OP primarily comes from enchanting your gear with % increase in both damage and armor rating.
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Shannon Lockwood
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:59 pm

On what difficulty? See...that is what I don't want lol. I want to feel as if I'm getting better as I level, but not to a insane point.

Master, and i can show you a video of 1-2 shoting a dragon on master if you want
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:31 am

I'm level 39 so I don't know if that qualifies as "high level", but if you do not use smithing enhancing gear and potions it's powerful, but not overpowered as I see it. It does, however, make the "critters"(bandits, draugr etc without a title like Bandit Outlaw, Draugr Scourge etc) a 1-hit kill when you have a high weapon skill.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:10 am

Leveling up smithing isn't overpowered... It's when you do NOTHING but smithing.

also I doubt you can one-shot a dragon easy... unless you hax...
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:36 pm

Smithing is balanced, though too easy to get the best gear. It's enchanting that really breaks the game. Oh and I'm on master(smithing/enchanting and things die with no effort)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:48 am

Leveling up smithing isn't overpowered... It's when you do NOTHING but smithing.

also I doubt you can one-shot a dragon easy... unless you hax...


did you even read the OP?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:45 am

Leveling up smithing isn't overpowered... It's when you do NOTHING but smithing.

also I doubt you can one-shot a dragon easy... unless you hax...
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If you use smithing enhancing armor and potions you can make weapons with insane damage(or at least those who have done it says so) since they effect stack even after 100 in the skill and the corresponding perk.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:36 am

I'm about level 15 and I'm playing a warrior type character. I have no desire to level up enchanting or alchemy, but what I'm hearing around the net and forums is that blacksmithing alone makes you overpowered (even on Master Difficulty). I love this game, and I do not want to be level 50 and being able to one shot dragons. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire about the topic below, but I genuinely am curious about wether blacksmithing alone makes the game not fun anymore.Thank you.

I'm 100 smithing, level 30, and I still die. A lot.
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Kate Norris
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:31 am

I leveled smithing to 100 on my character and I can safely say its not overpowered. Yeah, I one shot critters. Thats normal for my level(34). But special mobs are still dangerous. Pretty much the only way its OP is when you pair it with enchanting and alchemy(?), at least thats what I've read.

The game is still a blast.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:07 am

Yeah agree with the consensus, not OP by itself. But it is too easy to buy rare materials such as the ones for glass and ebony.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:29 am

Here are the facts: Smithing is [censored] easy to level up. Iron Daggers cost 1 Iron Ingot and 1 Leather Strap and increase your skill dramatically between all level ranges. With that in mind, you can then purchase around 20 iron Ingots for a really, really low price. Impatient? Fast travel or wait 48 hours for blacksmiths to restock. Rinse and repeat. This, will ruin the game for you.
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If you want to enjoy Smithing, try this:

1. Don't. Fast. Travel. Enjoy the sites and mine your own veins! (Check out this mod; it's http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=193).
2. Don't purchase Ingots or Ore(s) from merchants. Doing this will only kill the boner you get for your crafted goods.
3. Don't spam create Iron Daggers. Try role-playing and making 'sets' of armor for the market in the current city.

After restarting due to ruining it, I actually feel as if I earned my armor/weapons.

I really advise you to give this a chance as I'm having a blast! Running around in Dwarven armor feels like an accomplishment at level 15 as opposed to the Legendary Daedric I had before. Haha.

Anyway, hope that will help you out.
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EDIT: Oh! I forgot to actually answer your question. Doh. Smithing isn't overpowered by default. It only is if you exploit the [censored] out of it by mass-producing Iron Daggers at an early level providing you with high-level gear. This will only ruin your willingness to explore dungeons. Don't do it. Smithing can also be overpowered if you min/max your skills which I refuse to do (make alchemy potion.. enchant a set of armor with +enchanting.. make alchemy potion.. enchant a set of armor.. etc.)
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:14 pm

Leveling up smithing isn't overpowered... It's when you do NOTHING but smithing.

also I doubt you can one-shot a dragon easy... unless you hax...


There is a ton of videos of people showing it happen so I'm not sure you are qualified to speak on the topic if you think it can't happen. I know some of these people and they are NOT using hax, They just leveled Smithing and/or Chanting to max level.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:40 pm

Here are the facts: Smithing is [censored] easy to level up. Iron Daggers cost 1 Iron Ingot and 1 Leather Strap and increase your skill dramatically between all level ranges. With that in mind, you can then purchase around 20 iron Ingots for a really, really low price. Impatient? Fast travel or wait 48 hours for blacksmiths to restock. Rinse and repeat. This, will ruin the game for you.
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If you want to enjoy Smithing, try this:

1. Don't. Fast. Travel. Enjoy the sites and mine your own veins! (Check out this mod; it's http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=193).
2. Don't purchase Ingots or Ore(s) from merchants. Doing this will only kill the boner you get for your crafted goods.
3. Don't spam create Iron Daggers. Try role-playing and making 'sets' of armor for the market in the current city.

After restarting due to ruining it, I actually feel as if I earned my armor/weapons.

I really advise you to give this a chance as I'm having a blast! Running around in Dwarven armor feels like an accomplishment at level 15 as opposed to the Legendary Daedric I had before. Haha.

Anyway, hope that will help you out.
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That's a good idea. Something else I'm thinking of doing for my next playthrough is only leveling up smithing with the highest level components I can make. So if I unlock Dwarven gear, at that point I can only level up Smithing from making Dwarven stuff. Get to Ebony, and have to make ebony to get to Daedric. This way you're logically improving your skill by working with more advanced materials.

As for Enchanting, maybe I'll limit myself to just 1 type of the same enchantment in my outfit. So that's only 1 damage buff, instead of 3. Would still have to play on Master, but that 60% damage loss would provide a bit more of a challenge.

The game just got stale really quick once I started 2shotting giants and ice trolls on master
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:42 am

I just say play the game. Bethesda will most likely tone down enchanting much to many peoples dismay, but if not just enjoy it. Were you around when Morrowind came out? About a week in, same complaints.

"Game is too easy." " I'm level 25 and I'm 1 shotting everything." "I already beat the game and I didn't even need to get a skill to 100"

And guess what, enchanting in that game was WAAAAY overpowered. Was there even a limit to how many enchantments you could have? Because if there was, I never hit it.
I think about 2 patches in they added a difficulty slider (it was never in the game at launch). That fixed things. Maybe Bethesda will add a few more difficulty levels? Maybe that will help instead of a nerf!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:10 am

I just say play the game. Bethesda will most likely tone down enchanting much to many peoples dismay, but if not just enjoy it. Were you around when Morrowind came out? About a week in, same complaints.

"Game is too easy." " I'm level 25 and I'm 1 shotting everything." "I already beat the game and I didn't even need to get a skill to 100"

And guess what, enchanting in that game was WAAAAY overpowered. Was there even a limit to how many enchantments you could have? Because if there was, I never hit it.
I think about 2 patches in they added a difficulty slider (it was never in the game at launch). That fixed things. Maybe Bethesda will add a few more difficulty levels? Maybe that will help instead of a nerf!

Most of enchanting is fine I think. It's those +damage% enchants that need major nerfs. It should be at max 15-20% damage increase per piece, NOT 40%
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:41 am

I'm about level 15 and I'm playing a warrior type character. I have no desire to level up enchanting or alchemy, but what I'm hearing around the net and forums is that blacksmithing alone makes you overpowered (even on Master Difficulty). I love this game, and I do not want to be level 50 and being able to one shot dragons. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire about the topic below, but I genuinely am curious about wether blacksmithing alone makes the game not fun anymore.Thank you.


The people who say that blacksmithing makes you OP are those who spent all of their points in blacksmithing first and then decided to play the game after obtaining dragon armor even though they haven't even done the 2nd part in the main quest. Blacksmithing itself is not going to ruin the game if you do it as you play. Don't try to become master over night, once you get there, yes it will greatly help out but at this point in time you should be fighting monsters so hard that you depend upon that help to even win the fights. Enchanting is also worth looking at but is still considered one of those skills that make you overpowered.

In short, don't focus on it, just do it as a side skill while you play and it will help you in the game. Powerlevel it from the start, and yes it will ruin the game because you will be a level 4 running around with a mace that does 900dmg each swing.
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Rachel Hall
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:13 am

overpowered? no, it might give u that elven armor set a little quicker then waiting to find it in a dungeon or if u want the dragon armor but at the same time it's not necessary. I do recommend the arcane smithing perk to improve enchanted items tho
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:23 pm

That's a good idea. Something else I'm thinking of doing for my next playthrough is only leveling up smithing with the highest level components I can make. So if I unlock Dwarven gear, at that point I can only level up Smithing from making Dwarven stuff. Get to Ebony, and have to make ebony to get to Daedric. This way you're logically improving your skill by working with more advanced materials.

As for Enchanting, maybe I'll limit myself to just 1 type of the same enchantment in my outfit. So that's only 1 damage buff, instead of 3. Would still have to play on Master, but that 60% damage loss would provide a bit more of a challenge.

The game just got stale really quick once I started 2shotting giants and ice trolls on master

I like playing characters that have strengths a weakness'. For example, my current character is a cross between a old fashioned DnD paladin and a classic everquest paladin. Strengths are obviously A tanking type character, uses a shield (my main is 1hnd and shield) and can some magic but not a whole lot. I'm restricting my casting to a few heal spells, a few armor buff spells and basically every turn undead and undead damaging spell. What paladin would I be with out speechcraft? I also dabbles in destruction spells (flame spells only to give that holy fire type thing).And I smith on the side when I'm weary from questing.
I'll work on enchanting after smithing. It will suit to my charaters strengths and weakness'. I most likely will not power-game with Skyrim until i see every inch in this game.

Is the guy uber? Nah. But he can hold his own well enough...but his weakness, well... he's no archer...Mages. So when I do a quest with mages, I bring a pal!
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:32 pm

Funny I'm doing a similar build. Sword and Shield type with healing spells. I just had to dabble in crafting and break my game... :banghead:
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