Blizzard takes Valve to court over DOTA trademark

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:59 pm

The mod is DotA (an acronym for Defense of the Ancients) and the game is called Dota 2 (not an acronym, the actual name of the game). Would that make a difference in court?
Yes it would, a big one. Even Valve have gone on the record stating they didn't take DotA, they took DOTA. People familiar with it would find this funny because it's like calling an rts game RTS 2. But whatever, I doubt there's many gamers into it that much to know.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:52 pm

I hope blizzard win. Only becuase I dislike valve. I dont care about DTOA at all.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:16 pm

Just like the majority of its Warcraft community, Blizzard are a bunch of entitled whiny punks.

Boohoo. Corporations never cease to sue each other on claim rights.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:11 pm

I'm very interested to see how this turns out.

Reading Blizzards http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91202572&pty=OPP&eno=1, I first thought that the warcraft III world editor had an EULA that wouldn't necessarily prevent someone other then Blizzard from acquiring the rights to the dota trademark. But then in the end it states that Blizzard bought the rights to the "dota mods" in 2011 (edit: while Valve filed for the dota trademark in 2010). Then to complicate things even further, they bought it from riot games which in turn bought the rights from two people who worked on dota. The third person who worked on dota however now works for Valve.

There are too many variables and unknowns for me to see how this is going to end. I do have one question that someone here is probably able to answer: Am I correct in assuming that dota relies heavily on assets (in hero-names and textures ect.) that belong in the base Warcraft III game? And if so, is Valve recreating this image in dota 2?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:35 am

AFAIK, DotA was the first game of the type now known as "tower defense". DotA itself is not a genre, just the trendsetter.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:08 pm

since names, ideas, and stories should belong to the individual who thought them up and not the company's editing tools who they used them in i'd have to side with valve on this

in case someone misunderstands me, names, ideas, and stories are easily written without the use of editing tools provided by anyone
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:01 pm

Over time people will stop refering to these games as "DOTAs" just as people stopped calling first person shooters "Doom clones".
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:17 pm

Yes but DOTA is adapted from not only Blizzard IP, but from a storyline and game series they created, just because they dont wish to develop it doesnt mean that other companies can jump in their grave, Blizzard are good enough to not cry foul over people who want to make mods of thier work as long as they arent making money from their IP, but this is another company taking something that they let someone mod and wanting to make a profit off, this only makes companies then withdraw rights to players to have fun with the products they purchase by modding them without ending up in court, see Games Workshop, if you, sued, if you, sued, if you sued and so on.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:23 pm

Cool. I am going to convince the creators of Kung Fu Panda and Panda Express to sue Blizzard now. See you folks later.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:48 pm

Cool. I am going to convince the creators of Kung Fu Panda and Panda Express to sue Blizzard now. See you folks later.
pandaran monks have 5 or 6 years on kung fu panda, and panda express is just a restaurant with a panda on the sign
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:32 pm

Wonder what acronym they'll try to trademark next as a word.

"WoW, just WoW." :stare:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:23 pm

Personally I hope valve wins this case and turns around suing the pants of Blizzard for wasting their time. Personally I have a lot more respect for valve than I do for Blizzard after that BS stunt they pulled with that guy making the SCII mod.
I can agree to this.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Isn't League of Legends a DOTA? I'm confused. So DOTA is just a mod, not a genre? Then what's the genre? Action RTS?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:40 am

Isn't League of Legends a DOTA? I'm confused. So DOTA is just a mod, not a genre? Then what's the genre? Action RTS?
It kinda became a genre, but the name DotA was never used except for in the mod.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:13 pm

Isn't League of Legends a DOTA? I'm confused. So DOTA is just a mod, not a genre? Then what's the genre? Action RTS?
It's such a new genre there hasn't really been one chosen name for it. I've seen people call it "Dota" style games or Action RTS, and some weird ones I can't remember. Though those are less common as the months go by. It originally came form the actual game called DotA (Defense of the Ancients). Except at the time it was such a huge cult phenomenon any other clone was a "dota clone". So hence many refer to them as DOTA style games. DotA refers to the mod itself. Dota, DOTA, dota or any variants refers to the genre as a whole (usually).
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:34 pm

http://imgur.com/NfdLF.jpg, and the US legal system. I'll expect this to be settled in about a thousand years.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:44 am

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Diablo+III+vs.+Half+-+Life+3.+%3E.%3E_113dec_3302187.jpg, and the US legal system. I'll expect this to be settled in about a thousand years.
So, I'm getting the Funnyjunk homepage, which is cool, but it doesn't really tell me anything.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:08 pm

Isn't League of Legends a DOTA? I'm confused. So DOTA is just a mod, not a genre? Then what's the genre? Action RTS?
The genre itself is called MOBA: Multiplayer Online Battle Arena, of which DotA was the first game so many people know it by that name.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:16 pm

So, I'm getting the Funnyjunk homepage, which is cool, but it doesn't really tell me anything.
Bah, worked this morning. Hopefully fixed now.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:26 pm

Bah, worked this morning. Hopefully fixed now.
It works, nice.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:18 pm

We do not allow ongoing lawsuits that Bethesda is involved in to be discussed on the forums. Several threads about the Scrolls dispute between Bethesda and Mojang have been removed.

While not against the rules, I'll point out that "I want XYZ to win because I dislike ABC" is a poor way to settle such things, and it would probably be best to keep this discussion more productive.
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