I dont usually make cheerful threads to say all's well, but this forum is depressing and needs it badly

Ive played 20+ MMOs since Ultima Online and loved most of them. Ive played the Elder Scrolls ALOT and modded them heavily since the days of Morrowind.

Obviously by virtue of being unmoddable and 'balanced', a TES MMO will have alot more to do with a MMO experience than a TES experience. Therefore I'm hoping they continue to make single player TES games, and there's no indication they won't. But I'm also THRILLED to see a MMO in this setting.

And I'm not even one of the "Plz reinvent the wheel!!" types who bash WoW and want 'Innovation at all costs'. I'm fine with 3rd person, skill toolbars, quests, grinding to level, parties and raids, gear progression, PvP in battlegrounds, instanced PvE, and all the typical MMO clichés. Give me good design and implementation, a solid and smooth engine, a decent amount of eye-candy, fun gameplay, and a solid setting and I'm in, 100%. Surely I cant be the only one out there who actually enjoys this model of online gaming, otherwise it wouldnt have been such a resounding success copied a hundred times over.

And if they really build all of Tamriel on a scale thats not horribly insulting the game will be huge and so much fun to explore!

Sure the final product may end up not living up to my expectations but so far I haven't seen anything that should have this forum in arms like this. If you dont like MMOs, you can safely ignore this project, after all. Its developed by a different studio so there's no doubt Skyrim DLCs will continue aplenty, and it's success won't make TES6 any less likely!

This.

And lol I hate it when people always want to bring up that 'innovation' bs when they hadn't even tried said MMOs.

I'm with you, OP.

Thanks

After all I was the first one to make posts criticizing the flaws of Skyrim in a sea of praise, so I figured, fair's fair. This project's worth a shot.

This game was clearly made for WoW fans so there ya go. Another WoW fan who will try a different MMO for 3 months then run back to WoW.

WoW did not invent MMOs.

It seems that almost everyone thinks it did.

It's people like those contunuously developing stereotypes by making all MMOs sound like they are bad. And frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of it that I want to kill everyone who's intellectual integrity is below that of the normal human level. Everyone here is like a frigging entitled twelve year old [censored]ing about how nothing is going his or her way.

I like mmo's - generally the ones that try something different like Eve, atlantica, conan etc though.
I just feel as if an elder scrolls mmo really should be on the super unique innovative side of things, as opposed to the tried and tested used-formula side of things. The concept just doesn't gel for me - for an intellectual property that is known for its innovation and its defiance of any cash-cow gaming trends, this has come as a real shock to me

Riiiight. Just because I said I liked WoW doesnt mean I current play it. MMOs Im currently paying for are RIFT and TOR, themselves perfectly good and fun MMOs built according to the industry standards.

Furthermore, I'd like to add there's nothing wrong with 'just' playing a MMO for 3 months. 3 months is huge. I didn't consistently play Skyrim for half that much yet!

I love MMOs and have played them actively since Ultima Online. TES was the one franchise I could see being able to take the leap and actually make a AAA first-person real-time open-pvp full-loot action RPG and they blew it. They wouldn't be the first of course, but they'd be the first big one with a large brand name and tons of cash backing them up.

Why, in the name of all that is holy, would you want a genre to stagnate in out-dated game mechanics like this? I like some MMOs with timer-based auto-attack combat, because it fits in with the world. But regardless of those other games, this does not fit. Sorry to rain on your parade, but your complacency and acceptance of this disgusts me.

Also, while WoW didn't invent MMOs they did invent the kid-friendly, hand-holding "Theme Park" MMO which was innovative at the time and incredibly successful. Before that the learning curve to most MMOs was steep and brutal (EQ, SWG, Ultime) and there was not enough retention rate amongst audiences who couldn't get into the game in the first place.

I like WoW too, but you're not going to find a better WoW than WoW. WoW is the best mmo at being WoW. Do you really care enough about WoWing in Tamriel that you'd ditch the community of 11 million and eight years of polishing? Maybe people would try it for a couple months- a change of scenery I guess. And then subs will plummet, the game will go f2p, servers will get merged, the cycle will be complete.

LOL

and this, people, is why developers don't listen to you.

And your ideas of 'open-pvp full-loot' disgusts me too. If they had taken this beloved IP and made such filth with it, I'd still be banging my head on the wall.

What you call outdated mechanics I find to be successful mechanics. Your idea of fun isn't mine. This being said, there's still a niche for griefing PKs, but they dont belong in mainstream AAA titles.

But think of the wasted potential!

A brand new type of MMO, with gameplay similar to the TES games that we know and love, something to appeal to the social aspect of MMO players, and the gameplay aspect of the TES players!

A TES MMO would have been amazing like that, but... I mean, this just look cookie cutter. I'm sure you'll love it, but the half of the fandom that doesn't like the current style of MMO won't. We're quite upset, because while we love the concept of a TES MMO, what was presented to us was just so... disappontingly normal.