I found something in another topic that really bewildered me, blew my mind, and pissed me off all at the same exact time said by xaxxiron777

Here is the link to the topic: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1238361-huge-rant-warning-read-at-your-own-risk/

I seriously couldn't believe the crap I was reading, and this is the reply I left for xaxxiron777 in that topic:

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Lets get 2 things straight here xaxxiron777

First I want to clear this up
The fact that this statement clearly says what THE GAME NEEDS TO RUN...it does not mention anything about RUNNING THE GAME PROPERLY. People need to learn that being able to run something and being able to run something properly ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

Now to clear this up for you xaxxiron777

ATI CARDS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE USED FOR GAMING AT ALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES the only reason ATI cards CAN be used for gaming is a convenience issue and so Nvida Cannot monopolize the market. ATI cards were initially meant for HD TV AND MOVIES, NOT GAMING. unfortunately ATI users never seem to grasp this concept and go to no end to say it's not true at all this other nonsense. A little research from factual sources will full go into detail about this. And I said Factual Research not 3rd party research, (Overclock.net and other random 3rd sites and forums DO NOT qualify as Factual Research as those are 3rd party aspects with Opinions that manipulate their information so that it looks like t's facts and legite when it's not which is why it's 3rd party.

I get pissed off because ATI users are apparently stupid. Every single complaint about graphical issues of this type and magnitude in games for the past 2 years all come from ATI users (Googling this actually backs that statement up, and proves this). In fact the only time I've ever seen Nvidia users complain is when their system/GPU cannot handle the game. ATI users Failure to grasp the concept that obviously if all the complaints of this type and magnitude are caused by the ATI card, and then having all the ATI card users try and blame the game/company is beyond annoying. LEARN TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELVES.

Yes it absolutely is their fault the games they choose to buy do not work for them properly and here is why.

Lets look at some facts shall we:
FACT #1: Almost every game that has been released for the past 2 years REQUIRE THE PHYSX ENGINE TO RUN PROPERLY Whether you can actually enable it in the menu or not doesn't change teh fact that it's still in the games programming code.
FACT #2: PhysX affect all parts of a game. It's FPS, texture loading, Calculations on falling objects and gravity, it affects every part of the game not just Specific functions as games have been lead to believe by idiots posting things on the net they do not know about misleading people with false information.
FACT #3: ATI cards cannot ever use the PhysX engine in a game. Sure there are work a rounds but it's simply not the same thing therefore will still not function properly regardless of what people say.
FACT #4: For at least the past 5-6 years Nvidia has been releasing their Software to disable the use of an ATI card to pick up the game and an Nvidia card to pick up the PhysX.\
FACT #5: As long as a game requires the PhysX engine to run you will never be able to max it out in graphics and or performance with an ATI card as only Nvidia can achieve that due to the PhysX aspect of it.
FACT #6: People run games on settings their comp cannot handle, then whine about having graphical issues
FACT #7: People say things like "Well I can run this game no problems and this game demands more resources to run so i should be able to run this game no problem as well" While in theory that SHOULD work, it usually doesn't work that way as each game is different so comparing one to another is [censored].
FACT #8: All gamers know that games require the PhysX engine to run properly and if they don't then they shouldn't be gaming on a PC at all.
FACT #9: People go to no end to deny the above 5 FACTS with crap and false information.

Take all those facts and you come up with this end result (And if after reading all that you still want to argue invalid points, or whatever that is on you) but the bottom line is this:
Gamers that own ATI cards continue to stick with ATI cards full well knowing all the above information. So yes it is 100% their fault they use something and continue to use something they full well know cannot run games properly. So how the hell can you seriously sit there and try to say it's not their fault xaxxiron777?

I'm sorry but you saying it's not their fault is exactly like me knowing all the problems with an ATI card can give a game, knowing it cannot use the PhysX engine, then yet still going out and getting an ATI card then when the game doesn't run properly and I have problems with it, I come to a forum to piss and moan about how the game doesn't run right. I would have no one to blame but myself.

So yes I am going to get all pissy at people who cause their own problems, take absolutely no responsibility on their end because they use things that will not run things properly, then have the testicular fortitude to blame the game/company for their idiotic decisions.

I agree, people expecting it to work magically is frustrating. But I don't think fighting fire with fire will get anywhere.

It's not fighting fire with fire. What I've done is shown exactly how People with ATI cards are totally at fault for their games not running properly. it's people who own ATI cards that cause half of these forum problems to begin with. Even as I type this someone already replied in that topic I gave the link to. Is actually lying and saying they run games that require the physX engine on max settings using an ATI card which is impossible because ATI cannot access specific aspects of the performance and graphic capacity that is needed in order to run the game on max settings.
Which only backs up my point about people having false information.

The issue here is what ATI users THINK are max settings are not what is facts. Instead of stepping back and saying "You know if all the problems like this are all being reported by people with ATI cards but not Nvidia users, something is clearly wrong with ATI cards and maybe I should at least test that out to see because it cannot be a co-incidence tha's it's always ATI users posting these issues."

So yeah instead of looking at it like that and doing no research, they are in total and utter denial. and do nothing but cause the forum issues.

The point I am making is that ATI users have no right to complain when they are at this point.

Well they could if they put in an nvidia card just for physx.... Its not an impossible thing is all im saying.
They're going to [censored] and whine and theres no stopping it. ATI screwed over id for a second time and this is the result. When the release the drivers this forum will be a place of praise instead of the 9th circle of hell.

You, uh, might want to look up the definition of the word "fact".

I suggest, OP, you word your posts in a more acceptable way and with less vulgarity otherwise you will have moderator action to complain about.

I'd like to hear your explanation on how the game works on the consoles (PS3, Xbox 360) which don't support PhysX at all, and the Xbox having an ATi graphics card.

well i must of missed something here because what has the PhysX engine got to do with rage ?
you do know that only about 4% of all pc game use it , also you can run the Physx engine on the cpu , so ATI users can use it aswell , but im still not to sure what your love about the Physx engine is about ?
you dont work for nvidia do you ?

Honestly, his/her posts seem troll-ish to me.

So was there a point to this? Or did this blowhard just feel that everyone must agree with him completely, otherwise we are just some slack-jawed morons. Go away troll.

I think now is a good time to close this before someone gets hurt. This could have been answered and dealt with constructively and civilly in the topic it referred to, but it wasn't.