Pink Slime - It's What's For Dinner! : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:36 pm

Eh?
Not like we can do much about it. People will eat where they want to eat.

Indeed.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:07 pm

*shrug* It's not just our food that is causing us to be fat. But that can o' worms can't really be discussed here.

As for pink slime - anyone who eats fast food or highly processed foods and doesn't realize some of it will be uh.. "fake" for lack of a better word, food is just being silly. And ground beef, especially cheap cuts with high amounts of fat, has never been considered a healthy food anyways. People cry foul when these types of things are done to cheapen the prices and stretch food stuffs, but then they cry foul when prices sky-rocket to make these things without the process. As the world is now, can't have it both ways.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:00 pm

Ignoring the processing method, pink slime comes from a cow, so it IS beef. Most processed meat (sausage, hotdogs, cold cuts/lunch meat) are made from bits and pieces, scrapings, and mechanically separated tissues. Anything other than recognizable whole muscles are included in processed meat products. This is nothing new. (I've worked in and out of the meat processing business since 1982, currently in)

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 pm

Thanks for the insider input Uncle Fuzzy, but I would rather not dodge the question with governmental/industry semantics of what "beef" is. Tendon, ligament, hair, hoof, even non-cellular mucous by definition is "beef" by this standard, right? So cow snot and phlegm is an acceptable food?

Question stands... Are we at a point where we say enough is enough and stop with non-nutritional additives in our food and move it down the food chain or find another application?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46857879/ns/health-food_safety/?ocid=ansmsnbc11#.T3EuvjGPV1w

» Tue May 15, 2012 3:58 am

Question stands... Are we at a point where we say enough is enough and stop with non-nutritional additives in our food and move it down the food chain or find another application?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46857879/ns/health-food_safety/?ocid=ansmsnbc11#.T3EuvjGPV1w

That's easily answered by answering this question: Are the majority of people out there willing to pay a higher price for their foods to remove the overly processed and non-nutritional additives from everything? I'm pretty sure the answer is a big fat "no". Just look at how much more expensive "organic" choices are compared to the rest and tell me which products get bought more often... Until they find ways to continue to cut costs without adding garbage to food, this is the way it'll be.

And just to add this little thought: With those 3 plants halting operations, how many people are going to be out of a job? It's easy to say how things SHOULD be, not so easy when you consider all the ways a single change can have a domino effect on people and prices.

» Tue May 15, 2012 2:02 am

Just one more reason why I like moose meat.

Reindeer meat is awesome too :goodjob:

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:51 am

Just look at how much more expensive "organic" choices are compared to the rest

It's not always more expensive, it depends where you shop. I find lots of foods without additives that aren't more expensive, but I take my time to read labels or find good prices on what I want. I don't think the issue for people is just with price. They don't want to worry about all the little things in food when they're buying it.

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:13 am

I'm a couponer, I shop sales, I shop around to every store in town, and I have never once found an organic product to be cheaper then it's non-organic counterpart. And I bet people would be quick to claim they'd buy the "better" product but when it comes down to it, price will determine more of their purchases. For people who aren't hurting financially, it's easy to say "eh, people want better food, no matter the cost!". It's a very different thing for those people who can barely afford to put food on the table as is.

If "pink slime" isn't harmful, keeps costs down, and is added to only highly processed foods (ie: chicken nuggets and dirt cheap ground "beef") then I see no reason to ban it at this point.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:07 pm

I had this discussion with my mother long ago because I would frequent Safeway for years before moving out with an ex boss of mine, and then of course moving out of the country, and sadly Safeway had long sold pink slime, and the [censored] better not be here.

This is an explanation (given the research I've done I've found this is a pretty good illustration) from a Chef what it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBkwUt-bqIo

Here was a list I saw a while ago of the stores/suppliers in the US (some of these exist in Canada too) which does or doesn't sell/supply pink slime:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/22/which-sd-supermarkets-sell-pink-slime/?print&page=all

Local supermarkets that sell meat with pink slime:

Target
Walmart
Albertsons - discontinuing as of 3/21/2012
Vons - discontinuing as of 3/21/2012

No pink slime in store-ground meat, but sells prepackaged ground beef from other suppliers that contains the product:

Food 4 Less (Kroger) - discontinuing as of 3/22/2012
Ralphs (Kroger) - discontinuing as of 3/22/2012

No pink slime:

Whole Foods
Costco
Sprouts
Trader Joe's
Fresh and Easy
Cardiff Seaside Market
Northgate Gonzalez

The parent company of Albertsons released this statement:
SUPERVALU has made the decision to no longer purchase fresh ground beef containing finely textured beef for any of our traditional retail stores [including Albertsons]. We are currently working with our suppliers to implement this change. While it’s important to remember there are no food safety concerns with products containing finely textured beef, this decision was made due to ongoing customer concerns over these products.
A statement from Safeway, the parent company of Vons, said:
Safeway is committed to providing our customers with the highest-quality products. While the USDA and food industry experts agree that lean finely textured beef is safe and wholesome, recent news stories have caused considerable consumer concern about this product. Safeway will no longer purchase ground beef containing lean finely textured beef.

I know it's a bit of an overreaction but stuff like this can easily turn me away from the rest of a cow, I'm already finicky about which parts I eat, guess that's still not enough.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:44 pm

I don't care, really. It tastes good and no health departments have come by the school, so why worry?

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:46 am

I don't care, really. It tastes good and no health departments have come by the school, so why worry?

If they do start to "come by", what do you think has happened by that point? If I was at a US public school, I'd be pretty concerned, beyond that, I don't really care what people put into their own body, like you, they couldn't possibly care less, and for them I couldn't either, but I do care about what I consume and would want other options.

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:05 am

I's eats it every day at school.
Me's done feel perfectly fine.

But seriously, I couldn't care less.
I'm one of the people who didn't care when they found out Taco Bells Brown Sludge is less than 33% meat.
My cooking skills are so good, I can make PB&J without tearing the bread :cool:

Compared to what I make at home, mcdonalds is awesome.

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» Mon May 14, 2012 1:48 pm

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The good news is they have a new http://www.gd-wholesale.com/userimg/17/3640i1/innovative-waterproof-wireless-flexible-keyboard-143.jpg against excessive drooling.. :hehe:

anywho, local butchers here on the island.. there's about nine of them. Do all their own work except the actual slaughter..

I don't think I've had supermarket meat regularly since Clinton was in office..

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Anyone try the new Doritos Tacos at taco bell? Those things are awesome. I've had like

I have they're not bad, put a little chipote sause on it and you got yourself a party in your mouth. But I prefer the Volcano Tacos myself----mmmmm---Volcano Tacos--- :drool:

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» Mon May 14, 2012 12:13 pm

Thumbs up.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/26/national/a093235D35.DTL&tsp=1

'Pink slime' maker suspends some plant operations

The maker of "pink slime" suspended operations Monday at all but one plant where the beef ingredient is made, acknowledging recent public uproar over the product has cost the company business.

Craig Letch, director of food quality and assurance for Beef Products Inc., declined to discuss financial details, but said business has taken a "substantial" hit since social media exploded with worry over the ammonia-treated filler and an online petition seeking its ouster from schools drew hundreds of thousands of supporters. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has decided school districts may stop using it and some retail chains have pulled products containing it from their shelves.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:41 pm

Dp

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:25 pm

This is what happens when we let corporations control the world. No one is [censored]ing about grain practices but when it comes to our meat watch out.

This is not a new practice, quite frankly people are over reacting IMO. You have all been eating it for years. That being said I have eaten grass-fed organic meats for some time now and it's just tastes so much better.