Talos outlawed?

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:09 am

I find lore interesting...

got any info on Talos being outlawed?

I've been searching UESP and es.wikia and not really finding too much...

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:44 pm

If you look at the scripts during the recent Sounds of Skyrim video it mentions it. Just watch that vid and I think it is around the 5 minute-ish mark. Watch the whole thing though. it is quite good.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:31 am

I watched, but must have missed it
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:56 am

5:32 they pan over a script if you read it you will get you answers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnPwnJJcFQ
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 am

Yeah,

Lore spoilers,

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Thirtish years ago the Empire tried to conquer the Aldemiri dominion. But the Thalmor beat them badily and forced them into a really unfavorable to the Empire peace agreement, part of it was the Thalmor are allowed to travel through imperial land killing talos worshipers.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:36 am

Yeah,

Lore spoilers,

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Thirtish years ago the Empire tried to conquer the Aldemiri dominion. But the Thalmor beat them badily and forced them into a really unfavorable to the Empire peace agreement, part of it was the Thalmor are allowed to travel through imperial land killing talos worshipers.
That's a pretty unfavorable agreement :o .
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:59 pm

That's a pretty unfavorable agreement :o .

Yep, but it was that or the Empire would have been conquered. Still, though, they didn't have to go as far as to
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have their soldiers wear full sets of Elven armour. :facepalm:
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

As of yet the only lore I've seen in regards to the stamping out of Talos worship is in The Infernal City, and that has already been summed up.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:36 am

As of yet the only lore I've seen in regards to the stamping out of Talos worship is in The Infernal City, and that has already been summed up.

Really? I've read the Imperial City and I don't remember Talos worship being banned in that book, I might have forgotten though.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:09 pm

Yep, but it was that or the Empire would have been conquered. Still, though, they didn't have to go as far as to
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have their soldiers wear full sets of Elven armour. :facepalm:
What?! They look like they are wearing standard issue Imperial gear. Is it made of elven metal or something?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 am

Really? I've read the Imperial City and I don't remember Talos worship being banned in that book, I might have forgotten though.

For reals, but it is only a brief mention outlining basically what has been said in this thread already.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:40 pm

What?! They look like they are wearing standard issue Imperial gear. Is it made of elven metal or something?

Well, not all of the Imperials are wearing Elven armour. Maybe even very few of them are doing that, I don't know much myself. I simply read a post (it looked like the poster was someone who "knows") that said that there have been sightings of Imperial Legionaries in full Elven armour. He probably knew them as Imperial Legionaries because of the NPC name pop-up.


For reals, but it is only a brief mention outlining basically what has been said in this thread already.

So the Concordat of White Gold happened in the time of Titus Mede? I thought it happened closer to the date of Skyrim?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:56 am

So the Concordat of White Gold happened in the time of Titus Mede? I thought it happened closer to the date of Skyrim?

Unless I am totally mixing up my sources, then yes. But then I cannot imagine where else I would have gotten such information from, that could well be the problem.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:41 am

Well, not all of the Imperials are wearing Elven armour. Maybe even very few of them are doing that, I don't know much myself. I simply read a post (it looked like the poster was someone who "knows") that said that there have been sightings of Imperial Legionaries in full Elven armour. He probably knew them as Imperial Legionaries because of the NPC name pop-up.




So the Concordat of White Gold happened in the time of Titus Mede? I thought it happened closer to the date of Skyrim?
I think that person was mistaken. There might be Thalmor agents who the Legionaries have to help but they would not themselves be wearing elven armor. Why would the Thalmor gift them with that and waste its resources?

It did happen closer to Skyrim. I was probably A Mede who made that truce with the Thalmor but it certainly was not Titus Mede unless the guy is hundreds of years old. It happened around 30 years before Skyrims events so about 4E170ish. Watch the sounds of Skyrim. It says it plain as day on the script.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:06 am

I think that person was mistaken. There might be Thalmor agents who the Legionaries have to help but they would not themselves be wearing elven armor. Why would the Thalmor gift them with that and waste its resources?

It did happen closer to Skyrim. I was probably A Mede who made that truce with the Thalmor but it certainly was not Titus Mede unless the guy is hundreds of years old. It happened around 30 years before Skyrims events so about 4E170ish. Watch the sounds of Skyrim. It says it plain as day on the script.

The person stated that they were Imperial Legionaries, and since they were wearing Elven Armour the other main way they would be identified as Legionaries would be through NPC name pop-up. If they are labelled as Legionaries I don't think they would actually be Thalmor agents. I don't think it's a waste of their resources either. Making your enemy wear your uniform instead of their own while still on service would be a huge insult and symbol of your dominance.

So if it happened closer to Skyrim, it didn't happen in The Infernal City, right? :unsure: Sort of confused about this now.

EDIT: I did watch the Sounds of Skyrim and read the script, but I don't know what date The Infernal City took place in so I can't tell.

EDIT 2: The elven armour thing was sourced from http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1251475-anyone-encounter-or-see-the-thalmor-yet/page__p__19061724__hl__imperial+soldiers__fromsearch__1#entry19061724 thread. It states that they are named "Imperial Soldiers".
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:17 am

Ok, I see now, split second it is on screen...


these are kinda vague:
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmeri_Dominion
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Thalmor
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmeris


elderscrolls.wikia.com has one sentence each...
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:47 pm

Your first problem is using the UESP so extensively ;p
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:59 am

The person stated that they were Imperial Legionaries, and since they were wearing Elven Armour the other main way they would be identified as Legionaries would be through NPC name pop-up. If they are labelled as Legionaries I don't think they would actually be Thalmor agents. I don't think it's a waste of their resources either. Making your enemy wear your uniform instead of their own while still on service would be a huge insult and symbol of your dominance.

So if it happened closer to Skyrim, it didn't happen in The Infernal City, right? :unsure: Sort of confused about this now.

EDIT: I did watch the Sounds of Skyrim and read the script, but I don't know what date The Infernal City took place in so I can't tell.

EDIT 2: The elven armour thing was sourced from http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1251475-anyone-encounter-or-see-the-thalmor-yet/page__p__19061724__hl__imperial+soldiers__fromsearch__1#entry19061724 thread. It states that they are named "Imperial Soldiers".
Infernal city was 4E 30 if i remember right.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:38 pm

I think that person was mistaken. There might be Thalmor agents who the Legionaries have to help but they would not themselves be wearing elven armor. Why would the Thalmor gift them with that and waste its resources?

It did happen closer to Skyrim. I was probably A Mede who made that truce with the Thalmor but it certainly was not Titus Mede unless the guy is hundreds of years old. It happened around 30 years before Skyrims events so about 4E170ish. Watch the sounds of Skyrim. It says it plain as day on the script.

Yes, there is a Imperial-Thalmor Prison and the guards (At least the Gatekeeper) is a Legion Member (By name and race) using Elven Armor.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:25 am

I am now very confused about this thing.
So the Empire (Battle-born?) were threatened by an army of elves that the Empire would be destroyed if they did not ban Talos worship?
So the Stormcloaks are rebeling against the Empire saying that they want the worship of Talos?
Ok so the Battle-born... From their situation look like cowards, or were they REALLY proctecting the lives of innocent people.
And for the Stormcloaks they are fighting for what they believe in. But would this be risking the destruction of the Empire?
In my opinion If this is the situation (Correct me if I'm wrong( it seems better just to stay out of the whole thing if you want a All-good-character.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:56 am

I am now very confused about this thing.
So the Empire (Battle-born?) were threatened by an army of elves that the Empire would be destroyed if they did not ban Talos worship?
So the Stormcloaks are rebeling against the Empire saying that they want the worship of Talos?
Ok so the Battle-born... From their situation look like cowards, or were they REALLY proctecting the lives of innocent people.
And for the Stormcloaks they are fighting for what they believe in. But would this be risking the destruction of the Empire?
In my opinion If this is the situation (Correct me if I'm wrong( it seems better just to stay out of the whole thing if you want a All-good-character.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1252093-factions-relations/page__st__20

Yes, the Empire banned Talos to stop the war and protect innocent people (And the Emperor's Ass)

They are fighting for Skyrim's Independence. Yes, it would weaken the Empire and give the Thalmor a even better standing.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:05 am

Yes, it would weaken the Empire and give the Thalmor a even better standing.
No, it won't. Yes, it'll weaken the Empire. That only hurts the Thalmor.

The Thalmor, it should be noted, are against Skyrim independence. Because the Empire are their puppets.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:33 am

So,

the Thalmor, altmer/bosmer alliance, run things...

The Empire is their puppet.

The stormcloaks stand for ________. (Talos? or just independence from the Empire?)
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