Creating new games has a chance to overwrite old ones

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:27 pm

Yes this claim has been reported, i know. I just want Bethesda to acknowledge that this is a problem.

And before readers start thinking I made a mistake i just want to make a few things clear:

1. I always save with new characters using "New Save file." Even my very first save, i did NOT save over the "PRISONER - level 1" file
2. It was the third new character i made that overwrote my old one


I work in Quality Assurance for another game company, so i will try to write down my reproduction steps as clearly and as exact as possible.

1. Created a new Male Redguard and played over time for 30 hours, i was level 25.
2. Every consecutive save was an overwrite of my first, the first save was a manual save using the "New Save File" option (In the beginning of the game I Followed the Imperial guy, Hadvar? don't remember his name)
3. Created a new Female High elf character. Made it to the first small town, Riverwood and saved via "New Save File" (Followed Hadvar again)
4. At this time my old Redguard character's file was there, but all other files were replaced with the High elves AUTO saves
5. Created a third character, This time a Male Nord (Followed the Storm Cloak this time)
6. After getting my hands free and equipping a new weapon i opened the save menu
7. This is where i noticed that my original Redguard character was gone from the list


A couple of notes.
My game save size exceeded 6 MB. I did see some of the frame rate loss other PS3 players are complaining about, but the game was never unplayable.
Between steps 3 and 5, I never loaded up my original Character. After i played and saved with the High Elf, i turned my system off. I came home from work the next day and proceeded to make a third character.


This is my first post here, I am just looking for answers as to why I got this problem.
After reading forums i see people saying "Why didn't you create multiple saves!?" Well, Usually i do. I played oblivion on the xbox, and fallout 3 & Vegas on the PS3. I used to make multiple saves, but for some reason i got this notion that the Auto saves would serve as my multiple saves and i would be ok. Fail on my part.
Also, I notice people say "Don't save over the 'PRISONER 1' file!" ... Well i didn't, I was sure to select "New Save File." That's what i did, and that's what i always do.

I want to think that this problem is somehow related to the large save files people are experiencing. My save file was over 6 MB and i was reading that this is about the file size when people experience "unplayable lag." I did notice some loss in frame rates, but it was never unplayable.


I just want Bethesda to know that this is an issue. We may be a small percent, but it's a terrible bug. I'm not here to point fingers, or call people names. I'm not here for a refund or have some kind of unreasonable demands. I just want them to acknowledge that this is an issue and fix it. I don't want it to happen again, and i don't want other people to suffer.


There is another post, while it seems like a heated discussion, that has this problem too. So i am not the only one. Link here: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1284552-confirmed-new-character-will-overwrite-previious-save/


Thank you.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:26 pm

Bumping myself. So i don't drown in what looks like an endless sea of issues with this game.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:34 am

I'm gonna help with the bump because this and the frame rate issue are the things that are annoying me most.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Thanks!

And the frame rate issue is terrible! I got it a little bit, but i saw that video Zidane Tribal posted on these forums. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUoDfO1pWto&feature=youtu.be)
It's just awful..
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:20 am

Thanks!

And the frame rate issue is terrible! I got it a little bit, but i saw that video Zidane Tribal posted on these forums. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUoDfO1pWto&feature=youtu.be)
It's just awful..

Yeah I can play my game for about an hour before it gets like this, I have just completely stopped playing it now (which svcks because the game is really good) but I refuse to try and play it, it just gets me angry. So I am playing Lego Harry Potter lol, (really is a sad day when you would rather play a Lego game than an open world RPG)
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:28 am

Yeah I can play my game for about an hour before it gets like this, I have just completely stopped playing it now (which svcks because the game is really good) but I refuse to try and play it, it just gets me angry. So I am playing Lego Harry Potter lol, (really is a sad day when you would rather play a Lego game than an open world RPG)

Lolol! yeah, i'm flip flopping between the new Dragon Ball Z game and MW3. ... I can't believe i rushed Uncharted 3 so i could play this on launch day :(
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:18 am

This issue was discussed http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1284552-confirmed-new-character-will-overwrite-previious-save/, and there is a solution, not the best thing around, considering that Bethesda could easily fix it, but still, a solution.

In other words, you cant overwrite the PRISONER file, ever. Or else your other characters are gone, like mine.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:55 am

This issue was discussed http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1284552-confirmed-new-character-will-overwrite-previious-save/, and there is a solution, not the best thing around, considering that Bethesda could easily fix it, but still, a solution.

In other words, you cant overwrite the PRISONER file, ever. Or else your other characters are gone, like mine.

Yep knew about that one, maybe it will be fixed in the patch though?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:02 am

This issue was discussed http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1284552-confirmed-new-character-will-overwrite-previious-save/, and there is a solution, not the best thing around, considering that Bethesda could easily fix it, but still, a solution.

In other words, you cant overwrite the PRISONER file, ever. Or else your other characters are gone, like mine.

Yes, i read that post. I even commented on it. I just wanted to talk about my specific case and to try and get more eyes on it. In that post there seems to be some confusion, and a heated debate. I just wanted to make this one so it was a little bit clearer and to refrain from belittling and badmouthing others.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:25 am

I think they should have taken a lesson from dragon age and made complete seperate charter file locations. I too lost 3 of my 30 hr game plays with other charter types. I think most want to try this game as every race type as banter changes.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:22 pm

I think they should have taken a lesson from dragon age and made complete seperate charter file locations. I too lost 3 of my 30 hr game plays with other charter types. I think most want to try this game as every race type as banter changes.

For your Dragon Age example, you mean like each character has his/her own set of save files? Basically each character is a folder with saves inside?
I think Mass Effect works the same way too. When you load up a game, you choose a career first and the career page lists all of your characters, you then load one of these characters and it shows you a list of saves for that one character. Something like that is what you mean?

I like this idea. It's intuitive and it helps divide up all the save files from being on one screen.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:17 am

For your Dragon Age example, you mean like each character has his/her own set of save files? Basically each character is a folder with saves inside?
I think Mass Effect works the same way too. When you load up a game, you choose a career first and the career page lists all of your characters, you then load one of these characters and it shows you a list of saves for that one character. Something like that is what you mean?

I like this idea. It's intuitive and it helps divide up all the save files from being on one screen.

I do like how Bioware games did that, it truly does make it easier not to save over your other char.

Yeah but I hear this problem is the same one that plagues all Bethesda titles on PS3, so makes you wonder about their employees that work for them. The same bug shouldnt be carrying over everytime, usually company would learn from that mistake and make sure it didnt happen again in the next title.

Now the prisoner save i didnt know about that until now so I better not even start another char until after patch :cry: I was thinking of starting a new one so I wouldnt have to wait for patch and could still enjoy Skyrim lol. My first char is in 8MB heading to 9MB, was planning to give the char a break until patch before that char went to the point of no return where not even a patch would save it.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:56 am

I do like how Bioware games did that, it truly does make it easier not to save over your other char.

Yeah but I hear this problem is the same one that plagues all Bethesda titles on PS3, so makes you wonder about their employees that work for them. The same bug shouldnt be carrying over everytime, usually company would learn from that mistake and make sure it didnt happen again in the next title.

Now the prisoner save i didnt know about that until now so I better not even start another char until after patch :cry: I was thinking of starting a new one so I wouldnt have to wait for patch and could still enjoy Skyrim lol. My first char is in 8MB heading to 9MB, was planning to give the char a break until patch before that char went to the point of no return where not even a patch would save it.

Correct, the same bug Should Not carry over... that should be a lesson learned.

As for your character save, why don't you try loading him up and then make a second save using the New Save option? The bug will save over one game, i think. Don't use the prisoner file like everyone says, just try making one extra, heck make two extra New Save Files. Assuming your PS3 isn't too full on memory.
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