Hi friends.

Things are http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/2964646/img/Oblivion/Oblivion-2010-02-21-11-42-12-77.jpg, and I'm quite content with the state of my game. BC + UL + FCOM - 25-30fps everywhere. Lovely.


Maybe this could be a useful thread? Upload a photo of some graphical oddity and see if anyone has a solution?


Two quick nit-picks from me to start off with:

1. Is there a way to extend the LOD distance of my water? http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/2964644/img/Oblivion/Oblivion-2010-02-21-11-37-06-69.jpg in the water between detailed water and low-detail drives me crazy. I've tried a few .ini tweaks, but no luck. Any ideas?


2. http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/2964645/img/Oblivion/Oblivion-2010-02-21-11-37-11-59.jpg Is there a way to extend the distance that landscape is generated so to prevent floating rocks / houses / etc. I'm guessing this is something caused by RAEVWD.



Thanks friends.

Don't think there's anything that can be done about either issue. The second one isn't caused by RAEVWD - it's the same with vanilla.

It's not caused by RAEVWD, but how Oblivion handles distant landscape. RAEVWD places all VWD objects in the proper position, but because the reduced-polygon distant landscape meshes only approximate the terrain this can sometimes lead to distant objects that are partially buried or floating.

If the detailed landscape could be rendered further out the effect would be reduced, but I'm not sure that is possible (and it may be a big framerate killer). I wonder if it may also be possible to replace the distant landscape meshes wit higher quality ones? My understanding, though, is that there are no real good tools to easily generate distant landscape meshes for the game.

Hmm. That's all very interesting.

I feel like I've seen screenshots with characters looking out to sea that did not have such a harsh break-point between high-detail and low-detail water.

As for the distant-landscape, if there was a method, I feel like i've got 4-5fps to spare on a solution worth trying.


Thanks much.

Please forgive me for trying again, but the number of brilliant modders on this forum is overwhelming.


Does anyone know a method to extend the draw distance for detail terrain? Or extend the draw distance for detailed water? Please see the OP for photos of what I'm looking for.


Thanks again. I won't double post again. (grin)

The only method for extending the draw distance on full terrain is to raise the uGridsToLoad value in the Oblivion.ini file. The problem is, doing so introduces several possible bugs. One known as the "bouncing landscape" bug, where you'll be walking along and suddenly you're bouncing up and down, and so are any NPCs/creatures nearby. Another causes water LOD to stop functioning at random. So you're better off leaving things as they are.

The harsh line in your water LOD pic is also not something that can be fixed. It's always there, even in vanilla, but tends to be more noticeable when using water mods.

All right. Thanks, friends. I appreciate the replies!

Alright, one more little nit-pick - figured it wasn't worth making a new thread.


All is running fine, a good 1.5 without crashes. Loving my modlist right now.


However, every once in a while I come across a character with an invisible torso: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/2994190/img/Oblivion/Oblivion-2010-02-26-12-13-11-88.jpg


When I kill them, the armor is just something stock, like "steel cuirass" and I can equip it on myself and not turn invisible, taking it off the corpse allows me to see their body, dropping it does not result in a missing mesh icon,... nothing.



Just a memory glitch? Something fixable?


Thanks much!


Here's the current load order:

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Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.8]1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.8]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]1F  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp20  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp21  MIS Low Wind.esp22  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp23  Distant Chapel Bells.esp24  Cities Alive At Night.esp25  WindowLightingSystem.esp26  AliveWaters.esp27  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp28  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp29  diversegrasses.esp2A  Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp2B  Reznod_Mannequin.esp2C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.3.4]2D  StandingJOJO.esp2E  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.1.1]2F  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp30  Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp31  Thieves Arsenal.esp32  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp33  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]34  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]35  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp37  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]38  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp39  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]3A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hemingweys NPC and Guard Capes.esp  [Version 1.0]3C  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  T.I.E4MODS.esp  [Version 0.32]++  T.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp43  Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp44  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp45  Sutch Reborn Spawn Patch.esp46  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.0]47  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp48  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp49  GlenvarCastle.esp4A  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]4B  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp4C  Ruins of Tarnesia.esp  [Version 1.0]4D  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.2]++  All Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]4E  thievery.esp4F  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]50  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp51  Windfall.esp52  Knights.esp53  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]54  The Lost Spires.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]55  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  ElsweyrAnequina.esp57  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]58  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp59  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5A  xulTheHeath.esp5B  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp5C  XulEntiusGorge.esp5D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5E  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]5F  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]60  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]61  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.3]62  Castle_Almgard-V2.esp63  SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp64  VeronaHouse-SutchReborn patch.esp65  OOO-UL-Sutch patch.esp66  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6C  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp6D  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]6E  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]6F  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp70  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]71  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp72  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp73  xulPantherRiver.esp74  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]75  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]76  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]77  xulBlackwoodForest.esp78  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]79  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7A  Castle_Seaview.esp7B  CastleSeaview-SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp7C  bartholm.esp7D  Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7E  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]80  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp81  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp82  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp83  RealisticHealth.esp84  RenGuardOverhaul.esp85  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp86  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp87  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 1.8]88  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp89  RealisticLeveling.esp8A  actors_in_charge.esp8B  EFGAddPose.esp8C  immersive_caves_manual.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]8D  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.2]8E  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]8F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]90  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]91  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]92  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]93  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp94  Better Cities Full.esp95  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp96  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp97  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp98  Better Cities - Thievery.esp99  Better Imperial City.esp9A  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp9B  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]9C  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp9D  MotionBlur.esp9E  ScreenControls.esp++  Visually Realistic Lava.esp9F  Shining Creatures.esp++  ReteroX_BBEvilSkeletons.espA0  Hemingweys Capes.espA1  UnnecessaryViolence.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]A2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I'm just taking a wild guess here, but perhaps EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp has something to do with your latest issue? I'd try reinstalling it to see if that helps. I haven't used that mod, but from the title it seems like it could be the mod causing the problem. Make sure to follow it's directions carefully, too, just in case.

Invisible armor parts indicates a bad or missing normal map. If it's missing, reinstalling the mod that provides it will fix that. If it's bad, it may not have the proper amount of mipmaps and whoever generated the texture needs to correct that.

I don't think I would fix that if I were you, though. That screenshot is awesome.