[HELP] Instant CTD Upon Running Game : V

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:39 pm

As the tittle says I'm getting an instant ctd upon running the game. I've tried through SKSE and the vanilla launcher. With both as soon as the screen starts to load up I crash instantly, it doesnt even get a chance to load an image, just black screen up and crash.

Active Mod Files:

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00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm03  ApachiiHair.esm04  DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp05  Shadow Striping Fix.esp06  ShowRaceMenuOptions.esp07  getSnowyV3.esp08  DFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds.esp09  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.21]0A  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.11]0B  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.00]0C  CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Vanilla Bright Increased Radius.esp  [Version erts]0D  Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp0E  Weapons and Armor fixes.esp0F  Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp10  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp11  Economics of Skyrim.esp12  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp13  Bring Out Your Dead.esp  [Version 1.0]14  Carriage1.esp15  DaedricCrownCraftable.esp16  DragonCrownCraftable.esp17  DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp18  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp19  Dr_Bandolier.esp1A  DSpSoB.esp1B  EbonyCrownCraftable.esp1C  ElvenCrownCraftable.esp1D  GlassCrownCraftable.esp++  LeatherWeightFix(0.5).esp1E  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp1F  IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp20  Actualize Apparel.esp21  Cloaks.esp22  DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp++  HoodsAndCirclets.esp23  Insanity's Dragonbane.esp  [Version 1.0]24  ThalmorStandalone.esp25  Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp26  Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp27  My home is your home.esp28  SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp29  SkyrimChimneysRW.esp2A  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.0]++  DragonboneWeightRedux(x10).esp2B  PickaxeWeightRedux(2.5).esp2C  Masters of Death.esp2D  BetterSkillBooks(0).esp2E  dD-No Screen Blood.esp++  DescaledUniques.esp++  ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp++  FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp2F  GloriousGrass.esp30  Legendary Artifacts.esp31  nocollegetour.esp32  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp++  SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp33  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp34  spellbreaker_300.esp35  VariousGuardReplacer.esp36  Uncle Sheo.esp37  Open Cities Skyrim.esp  [Version 0.8.1]38  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp39  SkyrimSpeeds.esp++  Sprint1.esp3A  CandleLightToggle1NC.esp3B  nighteyetoggle.esp3C  OpenUnlock.esp3D  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp3E  Magelight Multi Cast.esp3F  Permanent Blessing.esp40  Starting Spell Choice.esp41  Path of Shadows.esp42  Sneak Tools.esp43  The Dance of Death.esp44  DeadlyCombat.esp45  DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp46  AT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp47  AT - Increased Progressive Damage +100%.esp48  MMhair.esp49  Oblivion hair.esp4A  race+.esp4B  Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp4C  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.1]++  Timescale5.esp4D  rcrnShaders.esp4E  Vampire Sight no blur.esp4F  WATER.esp50  WATER - Get Wet.esp51  Bashed Patch, 0.esp52  Automatic Variants.esp53  Open Cities Skyrim -- No Gates.esp54  enbweather.esp55  Sky Haven Temple Teleporter (Immersion included).esp

Any help is much appreciated!

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:07 pm

Okay, remove all mods, and see if it still happens. Also, do you have Dawnguard?

BTW, the mod WATER has a lot of dirty references, and can harm your saves if you remove it, so you may want to look into that a bit, though I doubt that would cause a crash at start...

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:05 pm

Okay, remove all mods, and see if it still happens. Also, do you have Dawnguard?

No DG, I didnt realize it was 2:30 in the morning for me, so I'll try that in the morning. If any one see's anything that screams out a possible issue please post it.

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:21 pm

actually since i use Wrye Bash for all my installs i'll just try it out real fast. the only 2 esp's ill have active is the rcrnshaders and automatic variants because i know they arent the cause, and i dont feel like manually uninstalling them.

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:46 pm

Nothing screaming, I thought first about rcrnshaders, wasn't there another esp file included (which is missing in your mod order) or is that only with realistic nights and customization?

Are 53 / 54 + 55 correctly loaded in the right spots?

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:38 pm

Ok, uninstalled everything but the two i mentioned in the above post, ran the bash patch and the AV patch, and still met the same results upon launching on a newly created profile (i use Profile Manager and it allows me to create new profiles without actually having to run the game, and yes i tried just launching the SKSE launcher and the vanilla launcher to see if it was an issue with that utility).

Nothing screaming, I thought first about rcrnshaders, wasn't there another esp file included (which is missing in your mod order) or is that only with realistic nights and customization?

Are 53 / 54 + 55 correctly loaded in the right spots?

I ran BOSS just before i copied that load order. The 3 at the very end shouldnt cause the issue (doesnt matter because even without them i still get the ctd) but i would normally place them before water.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:06 am

Ok, uninstalled everything but the two i mentioned in the above post, ran the bash patch and the AV patch, and still met the same results upon launching on a newly created profile (i use Profile Manager and it allows me to create new profiles without actually having to run the game, and yes i tried just launching the SKSE launcher and the vanilla launcher to see if it was an issue with that utility).

That is a mystery then. The only thing I can think of it to start from scratch and reinstall...

Modding can cause serious issues, and some are more permanent that others...

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:10 pm

That is a mystery then. The only thing I can think of it to start from scratch and reinstall...

Modding can cause serious issues, and some are more permanent that others...

Lol, just did this on Sunday - no gaming just deleting and re-installing Skyrim fully and culled mod list by 50%. The 10 minute test run worked beautifully.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:48 am

That is a mystery then. The only thing I can think of it to start from scratch and reinstall...

Modding can cause serious issues, and some are more permanent that others...

Hmm, i validated my game cache and 1 file failed to validate. It did it's thing but i still have the CTD.

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:46 pm

Did you try moving your ini files (the ones in Documents/My Games/Skyrim) and letting the game recreate them?

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:10 am

Did you try moving your ini files (the ones in Documents/My Games/Skyrim) and letting the game recreate them?

Just did, no change.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:30 am

Ok, well i'm going to bed, I'll try more tomorrow but it looks like i may have to do my second reinstall..... :brokencomputer:

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:06 pm

Any UI mods or injectors?

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Goodnight.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:39 am

Well, crashing at the main menu seems highly indicative of a missing master. Since you're using Wrye Bash, that should be easy to see. Are any of your mods' checkboxes red? If so, that mod is missing a master file.
Also, make sure AV actually generates a new patch file every time you run it, you can do that by simply checking the timestamp on the file.

» Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:57 pm

Those 2 mods of which you said they weren't the cause, I don't know a lot about them but do they happen to be built by patchers similar to ASIS, which makes them dependent on (almost) all of the mods you had installed at the time you ran the patchers for one or both of those mods? Because if that's the case, you have probably once deactivated one mod which one of them was dependent on and missing master files causes CTD at game launch.

EDIT: kind of ninja'd by Arkangel :ph34r: