Wouldn't it be fun to have an option to have attributes on your characters? It always bothered me to think that my ArchMage could just pick up a warhammer and be able to swing it around, or that my barbarian can can cast spells if he wanted.

I understand why Bethesda made things the way they are, but it wouldn't it be great to have the option to apply attribute stats for your characters so it "locks" them into their roles.

Thoughts?

The thing about role playing is that you dont have to swing a warhammer if you don't want to, or cast spells with a barbarian class character.

Knowing that I could is what bothers me.

Only if it was done like fallout new vegas, you can't max out all the attributes (SPECIAL). Make the attributes you choose actually mean something significant for the specific 'class' of character you've chosen.

I don't want another oblivion where you can max out everything, fallout 3 also gave you tha option with the ridiculous broken steel DLC.

Well, just don't let it bother you. That's what I did when I played pure mage (my first character).
I guess having attributes wouldn't do any harm, but we don't have them, so...

Sorry, but that's your problem, not Bethesda's.

Oblivion & Morrowind both had attributes.... and your Archmage could swing a warhammer & your barbarian could cast spells. So I'd guess you're talking about something else.....



....ah, that's what you're talking about. Gotta say, heck no. One of the big things I love about the TES games is the freeform skill system - use the skills you want to play the character you want. Rigid, defined-straightjacket classes is for games like D&D, not TES. At least in my mind.
(Heck, I never used an actual "class" in Oblivion - I always used the "custom" option..... and frequently used the Minor skills rather than the Majors.)


edit: and it's not that I don't play games with rigidly defined classes - I do! I just like to play a variety of games, with a variety of styles. TES is the main place I go for a wide-open, classless, skill-based system. When I want to play a different style game.... I play a different game.

What I'm talking about is having minimum attributes to be able to perform a specific task. Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, etc.

I'd rather there be penalties for stretching yourself beyond your abilities than any hard cut-off point. There's no reason a weak mage couldn't use a warhammer. There are reasons why a weak mage couldn't use a warhammer effectively, and these go beyond their level of proficiency with the weapon. So imposing attack/damage penalties on characters who lack the proper attribute score is a good thing. Soft, realistic restrictions before hard, arbitrary ones.

Other possible effects:
-If you lack the intelligence/willpower level required for certain spells, you have a greater chance of spell failure.
-Endurance/strength/agility to low? You won't be as effective in certain armor.
-Don't just have a strength requirement for weapons. Some, like a rapier, should be based on agility or speed and a slower, less agile character would suffer penalties when using them.

All of this sounds great. I just feel like it would add a more realistic option for your characters.

Check out my WIP Attribute mod: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1402603-wip-skyrimmersive/

I would just like there to be skill requirements for advancing in guilds. Without attributes that can't happen. Ah well....

Why not? Unless you mean something different by "skill requirements" (I took it to mean a certain level of appropriate skills, i.e. Conjuration, Speechcraft, One-handed, etc)....

Looks like a pretty cool mod!

Strange, I always liked the new levelling system. I like the thought of being able to switch between different play-styles without being shoehorned into one class.

Personal preference I guess. You can never please everyone.

Hello entreri3478. Good you're around.

No. It's time to relegate the all-things-optionable approach to lesser details. Having attributes, or the lack thereof, is a fundamental design choice. Let them revamp the attribute system, make it meaningful and impactful and I'd be willing to bet few amongst us would come here and protest its return