Who Hates Who?

Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:09 am

As the topic says, who hates who? This is what I know: Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I like to learn new things. Just don't give me inaccurate information.

Khajiit:

Khajiits may not be "hated," but are "disliked" by most races because of their reputation as thieves and smugglers.

Khajiits (I think) were the founders of turning moon sugar into Skooma, which is basically the opiates of TES. (Look in Miaq The Liar's pockets if you want to laugh)

Honestly, I can't think of a race that really enjoys having Khajiits around, but the Argonians at least relate to them in matters of appearance, because let's face it, they are both pretty ugly compared to the other races. (Not that appearances has anything to do with lore.)

Argonians:

I've heard Argonians were enslaved by the Dark Elves, which obviously means there are some bad blood there, and I know Nords of Skyrim (Especially Stormcloaks) don't much care for them.

I really don't know much about them except for their sacred tree (Don't remember the name) that made them excellent warriors.

Bretons:

Breton is my favorite race to play in any ES game. However, I unfortunately have not done enough research to know who hates them. If I were to make an educated guess, I would say because of their ability to use magic (not as well as the Altmer) would cause the High Elves to look down at them.

High Elves:

Again, with the bad blood between the Dark Elves and the High Elves, because the High Elves enslaved them, they hate each other, and I don't think that's going to change.

Also, the High Elves got into a war which I think is called the "Great War" with the Nords, which explains why Nords dislike magic users. The war itself caused the Nords to despise the High Elves.

Nords:

The Nords aren't hated by anybody that I can think of (Besides in Skyrim for going against the Imperials and the High Elf Thalmor Embassy), but they are usually tolerated as drunken brutes by the other races. I don't really know much else about them.

Redguard:

Yeah, I don't know squat about them, where they live, who they hate or who hates them.

Wood Elves:

Eh. I know these guys lived in trees for many years and are able to befriend any animal that approaches them, but as far as who they hate or who hates them, again I'm stumped.

Dark Elves:

I've already went over the HE/DE lore enough, I'm not going to repeat it again.

As far as hating anybody else besides Altmer or Argonians, my knowledge doesn't extend that far.

Imperials:

In Skyrim, this is obvious that the Nords are upset with the Imperials for trying to take over.

I think they were in a war with another race, but I don't know which one or who it was against.

Orcs:

I don't know much about these guys either. I know they were in a war, but again I don't know who it was against.

I know orcs usually keep to their own race, and you usually have to prove yourself before they let you in their circle of trust, but I don't know why they do that.

As you can see, I've got a lot to learn about this stuff. Hopefully one you can shed the light on it for me.
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Post » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:12 pm

This has nothing to do with Skyrim.. I think this would go in lore.. But I think its more hate directed at bethesda and not at people themselves on the forum.. if that was the case, people hating on each other, mods wouldn't be doing a great job.. But I don't usually see it.. I can't tell if you mean actual forum people or Elder Scroll races..
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:17 am

This has nothing to do with Skyrim.. I think this would go in lore.. But I think its more hate directed at bethesda and not at people themselves on the forum.. if that was the case, people hating on each other, mods wouldn't be doing a great job.. But I don't usually see it.. I can't tell if you mean actual forum people or Elder Scroll races..
I was talking about the lore. Skyrim is the latest game, so I'm keeping up on the updates. I'll go ahead and take off the first comment there because people are misunderstanding me, as usual.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:04 am

As the topic says, who hates who? This is what I know: Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I like to learn new things. Just don't give me inaccurate information.

Khajiit:

Khajiits may not be "hated," but are "disliked" by most races because of their reputation as thieves and smugglers.

Khajiits (I think) were the founders of turning moon sugar into Skooma, which is basically the opiates of TES. (Look in Miaq The Liar's pockets if you want to laugh)

Honestly, I can't think of a race that really enjoys having Khajiits around, but the Argonians at least relate to them in matters of appearance, because let's face it, they are both pretty ugly compared to the other races. (Not that appearances has anything to do with lore.)

Argonians:

I've heard Argonians were enslaved by the Dark Elves, which obviously means there are some bad blood there, and I know Nords of Skyrim (Especially Stormcloaks) don't much care for them.

I really don't know much about them except for their sacred tree (Don't remember the name) that made them excellent warriors.

Bretons:

Breton is my favorite race to play in any ES game. However, I unfortunately have not done enough research to know who hates them. If I were to make an educated guess, I would say because of their ability to use magic (not as well as the Altmer) would cause the High Elves to look down at them.

High Elves:

Again, with the bad blood between the Dark Elves and the High Elves, because the High Elves enslaved them, they hate each other, and I don't think that's going to change.

Also, the High Elves got into a war which I think is called the "Great War" with the Nords, which explains why Nords dislike magic users. The war itself caused the Nords to despise the High Elves.

Nords:

The Nords aren't hated by anybody that I can think of (Besides in Skyrim for going against the Imperials and the High Elf Thalmor Embassy), but they are usually tolerated as drunken brutes by the other races. I don't really know much else about them.

Redguard:

Yeah, I don't know squat about them, where they live, who they hate or who hates them.

Wood Elves:

Eh. I know these guys lived in trees for many years and are able to befriend any animal that approaches them, but as far as who they hate or who hates them, again I'm stumped.

Dark Elves:

I've already went over the HE/DE lore enough, I'm not going to repeat it again.

As far as hating anybody else besides Altmer or Argonians, my knowledge doesn't extend that far.

Imperials:

In Skyrim, this is obvious that the Nords are upset with the Imperials for trying to take over.

I think they were in a war with another race, but I don't know which one or who it was against.

Orcs:

I don't know much about these guys either. I know they were in a war, but again I don't know who it was against.

I know orcs usually keep to their own race, and you usually have to prove yourself before they let you in their circle of trust, but I don't know why they do that.

As you can see, I've got a lot to learn about this stuff. Hopefully one you can shed the light on it for me.
Actually the Argonians now enslave the Dunmer and are in control of a good portion of Morrowind I believe.
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Post » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:46 pm

Actually the Argonians now enslave the Dunmer and are in control of a good portion of Morrowind I believe.
Haha. That made me giggle. Irony~
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:09 am

Actually the Argonians now enslave the Dunmer and are in control of a good portion of Morrowind I believe.
Nah they didn't take slaves. And they only took parts of southern morrowind that the dunmer had originally taken from black marsh.


Khajiit and Bosmer don't tend to get along. They've historically had several conflicts between each other. Khajiit were at one point enslaved by dunmer. Though after the abolishment of slavery, there hasn't been any attempts at retribution on them.

Khajiit and Argonians had a rivalry in Oblivion due to land struggles. Argonians invaded morrowind after the red year, killing many of the surviving dunmer and retaking land they had lost to them in the past. No one really trusts them or the hist.

Traditional Dunmer are pretty much pissed off at everyone even fellow dunmer. They had a long feud with the nords. Enslaved khajiit and argonians, resisted the empire, and despised their influence on Vvardenfell. Not well liked by altmer

Nords are a strange bunch alliance-wise. One day they'll be raiding your lands, the next they'll ally with you. Despite their feuds with the dunmer, they've allied with them twice in the past, and took in refugees when the argonians invaded morrowind as well as giving the Dunmer Solstheim. Near the time of Arena, they attacked and seized land from both Hammerfell and High Rock. But they've also aided them before too. Little to no relations with altmer(Until the great war), argonians or Khajiit. They offered refuge to the orcs when Orsinium was destroyed.

Imperials are generally half and half in countries. You'll find groups that find them to be a welcome ruler, and many groups that also think they're an oppressive dictator of a race.

Bretons tend to hate orcs. They've allied with the redguards to drive them out of High Rock in the past.

Same goes for Redguards. Redguards currently aren't on good terms with the empire due to the empire abandoning them during the Great War.

Orcs tend to ally with imperials or Nords. Altmer, Redguard, Breton and Dunmer despise them. They weren't considered citizens of the empire until the Agent of Daggerfall granted Gortwog control of the numidium and they threatened to use it.

Bosmer have tended to not get along well with their khajiit neighbors. They've allied with the dominion in the past and are currently allied with the new dominion.

Altmer(Of the thalmor variety) have at the best disdain for other races save the bosmer whom they consider cousins who had the misfortune of not being born altmer. They wish to eradicate all of mankind, orcs, and dunmer. Probably the Khajiit and Argonians too, though much lower priority on those two.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:54 am

As the topic says, who hates who? This is what I know: Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I like to learn new things. Just don't give me inaccurate information.

Khajiit:

Khajiits may not be "hated," but are "disliked" by most races because of their reputation as thieves and smugglers.

Khajiits (I think) were the founders of turning moon sugar into Skooma, which is basically the opiates of TES. (Look in Miaq The Liar's pockets if you want to laugh)

Honestly, I can't think of a race that really enjoys having Khajiits around, but the Argonians at least relate to them in matters of appearance, because let's face it, they are both pretty ugly compared to the other races. (Not that appearances has anything to do with lore.)


Argonians:

I've heard Argonians were enslaved by the Dark Elves, which obviously means there are some bad blood there, and I know Nords of Skyrim (Especially Stormcloaks) don't much care for them.

I really don't know much about them except for their sacred tree (Don't remember the name) that made them excellent warriors.

Hist, the sacred tree is hist, and yes they were enslaved by the dunmer, but back then until slavery was abolished in Morrowind the
dunmer enslave many race not just argonians though beast race is the most common, yes.

Bretons:

Breton is my favorite race to play in any ES game. However, I unfortunately have not done enough research to know who hates them. If I were to make an educated guess, I would say because of their ability to use magic (not as well as the Altmer) would cause the High Elves to look down at them.

Yep, they were hated by the altmers because bretons are what you may call half-elf way during the merethic era, the elf in high rock breed with the humans there (the nedes) gradually they have elf characteristics.

High Elves:

Again, with the bad blood between the Dark Elves and the High Elves, because the High Elves enslaved them, they hate each other, and I don't think that's going to change.

No, no, the altmers didn't enslave the dunmers the erason they hate each other was because the dunmer (at that time chimer) left and abbandon the way of summerset isle following the prophet Veloth

Also, the High Elves got into a war which I think is called the "Great War" with the Nords, which explains why Nords dislike magic users. The war itself caused the Nords to despise the High Elves.

No, the great war was between the empire and aldmeri dominion.

And the altmers hate mers not of pure blood (not altmers) so Orcs,Dunmer,and Bosmer goes here, and beast race to some extent, and oh breton because their ancestor were elves, and the humans, since the humans mostly worship Talos, basically they hate everyone.

Nords:

The Nords aren't hated by anybody that I can think of (Besides in Skyrim for going against the Imperials and the High Elf Thalmor Embassy), but they are usually tolerated as drunken brutes by the other races. I don't really know much else about them.

The nords are hated in the sense that khajiit was hated because they're stereotyped as thief, the nords are stereotyped as uneducated barbarian. They hate altmers and dunmers.

Redguard:

Yeah, I don't know squat about them, where they live, who they hate or who hates them.

They live in Hammerfell, originally from the continent of Yokuda, after the white-gold concordat they're probably hate the empire and the aldmeri dominion, that is mostly Imperial and Altmer. They're also the odd one of human as their religion view mortality as a curse rather a gift like the rest of men religion and resemble more of the mers so it probably give them some animosities.

Wood Elves:

Eh. I know these guys lived in trees for many years and are able to befriend any animal that approaches them, but as far as who they hate or who hates them, again I'm stumped.

Altmers hate them to some extent as typically altmers hate all mers that is not pure of blood or in other words not altmers (orcs,bosmer,dunmer)

Dark Elves:

I've already went over the HE/DE lore enough, I'm not going to repeat it again.

As far as hating anybody else besides Altmer or Argonians, my knowledge doesn't extend that far.

They're also hated by almost any race due to their slavery and the nords and dunmer has hate each other for quite some time.

Imperials:

In Skyrim, this is obvious that the Nords are upset with the Imperials for trying to take over.

I think they were in a war with another race, but I don't know which one or who it was against.

Imperials are hated by the altmers due to the great war, and I won't go as far as the nords hate them it's the stormcloaks not all of them hate Imperial, in fact most of the empire you see in Skyrim is composed of nords.

Orcs:

I don't know much about these guys either. I know they were in a war, but again I don't know who it was against.

I know orcs usually keep to their own race, and you usually have to prove yourself before they let you in their circle of trust, but I don't know why they do that.

Hated by the altmers because the orcs are "corrupted elves" and they hate well, I don't really know their culture that good, but since Orsinium has been destroyed again and again, I think that they hate those that destroy orsinium, to some extent.

As you can see, I've got a lot to learn about this stuff. Hopefully one you can shed the light on it for me.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:18 am

Snip. I see you've added in to my quotes. I was mislead.

I read everything you posted. Very educational. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.
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Post » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Actually the Argonians now enslave the Dunmer and are in control of a good portion of Morrowind I believe.

So much win :D
That's amazing !
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:37 am

SNIP
Dumner made skooma long time a go.
There is a nasty feud between both beast races and between meat loving bosmer and sugar licking Khajiit.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:01 am

Nah they didn't take slaves. And they only took parts of southern morrowind that the dunmer had originally taken from black marsh.


Khajiit and Bosmer don't tend to get along. They've historically had several conflicts between each other. Khajiit were at one point enslaved by dunmer. Though after the abolishment of slavery, there hasn't been any attempts at retribution on them.

Khajiit and Argonians had a rivalry in Oblivion due to land struggles. Argonians invaded morrowind after the red year, killing many of the surviving dunmer and retaking land they had lost to them in the past. No one really trusts them or the hist.

Traditional Dunmer are pretty much pissed off at everyone even fellow dunmer. They had a long feud with the nords. Enslaved khajiit and argonians, resisted the empire, and despised their influence on Vvardenfell. Not well liked by altmer

Nords are a strange bunch alliance-wise. One day they'll be raiding your lands, the next they'll ally with you. Despite their feuds with the dunmer, they've allied with them twice in the past, and took in refugees when the argonians invaded morrowind as well as giving the Dunmer Solstheim. Near the time of Arena, they attacked and seized land from both Hammerfell and High Rock. But they've also aided them before too. Little to no relations with altmer(Until the great war), argonians or Khajiit. They offered refuge to the orcs when Orsinium was destroyed.

Imperials are generally half and half in countries. You'll find groups that find them to be a welcome ruler, and many groups that also think they're an oppressive dictator of a race.

Bretons tend to hate orcs. They've allied with the redguards to drive them out of High Rock in the past.

Same goes for Redguards. Redguards currently aren't on good terms with the empire due to the empire abandoning them during the Great War.

Orcs tend to ally with imperials or Nords. Altmer, Redguard, Breton and Dunmer despise them. They weren't considered citizens of the empire until the Agent of Daggerfall granted Gortwog control of the numidium and they threatened to use it.

Bosmer have tended to not get along well with their khajiit neighbors. They've allied with the dominion in the past and are currently allied with the new dominion.

Altmer(Of the thalmor variety) have at the best disdain for other races save the bosmer whom they consider cousins who had the misfortune of not being born altmer. They wish to eradicate all of mankind, orcs, and dunmer. Probably the Khajiit and Argonians too, though much lower priority on those two.
Im pretty sure the Argonians made the Dunmer their slaves or atleast some of them. and they captured Vvardenfall not southern morrowind.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:49 am

Im pretty sure the Argonians made the Dunmer their slaves or atleast some of them. and they captured Vvardenfall not southern morrowind.

Nope. They captured southern Morrowind. Vvardenfell is basically TES equivalent of Chernobyl now. The seas are still boiling there. Which is why in TES novels, the Argonian Zombies that pursue Sul to the site of Vivec city, had the flesh boiled right off their bones when they walked through the water.
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Post » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:38 am

Im pretty sure the Argonians made the Dunmer their slaves or atleast some of them. and they captured Vvardenfall not southern morrowind.

The Argonians haven't taken over Vvardenfell (even though they have attacked it). They captured only a lower part of the mainland, which they integrated into their own land.

Vvardenfell is basically TES equivalent of Chernobyl now. The seas are still boiling there.

It definitely was like that during the events of the books, but right now it's pretty much recovered, although in a shallow way. The lands are still scarred and unlike they have been before the Red Year. But I'd say Vvardenfell is indeed habitable.
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