Having a hard time understanding why so many people want spears added to the game, or next game as it may be.

I in Morrorwind they didn't feel very useful, most likely due to my play style. Never thought about them during TES4. Now with Skyrim, since spear topics keep popping up, I've been think what the pros and cons of those weapons might be. I just don't see how they would fit in with the current gameplay with have, you can't swing a spear like a sword, mace, or axe and get the same outcome. Wouldn't all spears and spear like weapons be two handed? They would have perks like how swords can do critical damage, what would a spears bonus be? It shouldn't have one that another weapon already has so that removes bleeding damage from the pool.

Well there are a few of my thoughts on the subject, I would like to know what all the "Spear Nuts" expect and want from the weapons and also how they wouldn't just be stepping on the toes of weapons that are already in the game.

Thank you for your Time.

I don't get it either. Sure it was cool in Morrowind to poke things from afar and Argonians do look good with em, but it doesn't feel like a huge loss to me not having them. I can think of weapons i'd rather have in it's place

I don't think too many people use the spears. They just want them in there because they were an option in previous games. Same with the ninja stars, and the crossbow (before being added in Dawnguard).

Weapon diversity is pretty much the only answer to this. Crossbow were a needed addition in Dawnguard to mix up archery a bit, but even then more melee weapons could never hurt. It's not like there's a danger to them being overpowered.

Why have axes?

Spears have major advantages in combat and give variation to rather bland PVE now. First thing that comes in mind: Now you can encounter NPC with a) one handed weapons + shields - more protective less damage, fast attack speed, close range 2) two handed weapons - big dmg, slow attack speed slightly longer attack range 3) Range - bow/crossbows - manovering 4) magic using enemies. With Spears you could encounter npc with high defence, and long attack range.
Second: Mounted Combat with spears and spears as a weapon against mounted enemies (which I hope we see one day) Thrusting someone on horseback gives you manouver and charge options without loosing the range. While attacking someone on horseback is much easier with a spear than with a 1/2handed weapon.

Lastly: More content the better.

MUTRA.

That is all.

Spears are superior weapons, it doesn't make sense to not have them, in battle, the person who can hit first is the winner, and the person who can hit first is usually the one with the longest reach.

Forget spears, I'd rather see something like http://thevikingweaponsstore.com/images/Triple_Ball_Medieval_Flail.jpg to swing around for crowd control.

I expect lots of flame and rage soon but while it's still civil how would a spear mean high defence? A spear offers far more openings while attacking than most 1 handed weapons and is practically impossible to parry with.

Well sir, the game has given use reasons to have Axes in the game. They do more damage then swords do and with the right perks they do bleeding damage. While a little slower in combat then a sword they do things a sword and mace cannot.

My question is Why have Spears?


Yes, this is what I was looking for, someone that has put thought into how spears would operate with in the gameplay that has already been set in Skyrim.

Spears:

Necessary: no.

Useful: no.

BA to hold and use: yes.

I don't want them for any practical reason (longer reach or whatnot), I just like seeing my character wield one.

I think the Lusty Argonian Maid v1 offers a most compelling case for the inclusion of spears

Don't forget Sermon 14.

In the real world this is very true, and in a game like Demons Souls its also very true. But Combat in Skyrim comes down to who ever his the other first so very rarely. With the way melee NPC enemies try to fight you range is never a factor for them, the guy with the Greatsword is gonna try and get this as close to use as the guy with the Dagger. I can see how the Player having a super long spear could fit someone that wants use melee combat while always being out of range. It would be like having the flames spell thats a weapon, its range is limited but its far enough that you can avoid enemy slashes.

Lastly you might be playing on Master where it can be one shot one kill for you, but that still comes off as an extreme case for this game.

Dark Souls is a good example of the usefulness of spears. I never thought about it much until after that game. Spears saved my life many times. xD

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Seriously, though. It's just nice to have more weapon variation.

I'd just like to have them for more weapon variety, along with flails and throwing stars.

Probably because people are lacking in other departments. They need something long to make up for it.

IRL, spears were used both one and two-handed. The greek hoplite held a spear in his right hand with a large round shield on his left hand. It allowed them to stand shoulder to should and create a wall of overlapping shields, http://periklisdeligiannis.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/40.jpg%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D375. Yet still allowed them to stab over their shields with the spears held in an overhand grip. This style of fighting was very common, as the spear and shield are one of the simplest weapon combinations to create and learn to use. So it was commonly employed by the rank and file members of many armies (as opposed to the warrior elites). But even fighting one on one, the spear and shield could be used with great skill both over and underhanded, and was a potent combination. http://youtu.be/ARxPcikRrVI

I've never been interested in spears to be honest, I never played Morrowind so I never used them. They just don't seem very interesting, yeah it would be cool to have them as an option in the game but they aren't that big of a deal.

people just need to leave Britney alone.

What if Spears became its own skill, with its own perks and stuff? If you have a shield equipped, it would be treated as a one-handed weapon. And if no shield is equipped, it would be treated as two-handed. I think the weapon has potential. It's not something I'd get up in arms about, but it's something.

I understand why people are asking for spears. In Morrowind I liked them (iron halberd was my choise because of its look) - they were best melee weapon against cliff raisers (it's the only creature I miss from Morrowind). In Oblivion there weren't flying creatures so no special use for spears but in Skyrim we have dragons. I would love to pierce their scales and skin with a spear.

No. The first spears in real history were short one handed weapons and were used with a heavy shield in phalanx formations. You could have one-handed and two-handed spears/halberds.

How about a bonus to damage/critical against running enemies or enemies about to power attack?

They would make mounted combat a lot more dangerous for one, and they would suited for taking out mobile enemies from a distance. It might also mean Bethesda will be adding horse riding enemies into the game for the player to fight, which would be really cool.