Could they have done the civil war quests better?

Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:45 am

Yes....yes they could...soooo a while back i finished the Imperials side of the civil war and i thought it felt really rushed, the last time we could join the imperial legion was in Morrowind and that was 9-10 years ago.
in my opinion the Imperial legion quest's lacked the kind of immersion that keeps you fighting for the faction you joined, i feel it could of be done with waaaay more feeling. Obviously it's to late to change it but i had a few ideas on how they could of improved it drastically, so i thought id share them to see what people thought, I'm not trying to bash Bethesda in anyway.


Rewards

This is probably my main gripe with the quest. I would of liked the rewards from both sides to be related to the faction you joined, General Tullius gives you and orcish sword of burning for wiping out a fort. Why? why in the world would he just casually pass you an orcish sword of burning? (in my game he was sitting on a chair...he didn't even bother to get up :down: ) I'm sure the General would give you a nice shiny imperial sword of burning, or even better a unique item. Imperials are loosely based on the Roman empire, so it would of been cool if they gave you some roman looking loot.

Also, the way the Rewards are given to you kinda of killed the realism for me, like i said, General Tullius just casually passes you a weapon or piece of armor, like its no big deal you just wiped out a fort full of angry, blood frenzied Stormcloaks.... instead they could of had a big ceremony, all the imperial soldiers lined up in the courtyard outside castle Dour, the General and Legate Rikke standing there at the end of the line ready to present the brave and noble imperial soldiers with a reward. Hadvar steps forward first and claims his reward and then its your turn.... why is the none of this? :ermm: it would of actually rewarded the player and made them feel like they accomplished something from 'wiping out the fort'.

Legate Rikke

Don't get me wrong i like her character but i don't understand why they added so many Legate's into the game and then only used Legate Rikke, regardless what imperial camp you go too she's always the one giving you orders, what about all the other Legate's? do they just vanish into Oblivion? would of made more sense if it was a different guy (or gal) giving you the orders, and you actually got to see a glimpse of their character and how the war has effected them when you finished all their quests.


Sub Quests

sub quests would have been great, it would of given you something to do while not actually progressing through the main civil war part of the quest line, i really thought the would be more to do then just kill Stormcloaks when i joined the legion, to name a few you could:
  • Take down smugglers.
  • Rescue an imperial citizen held hostage by Stormcloaks.
  • Defend the Legions name from a Monk, using non violent means.
  • Kill a some guy who was a member of the legion but now worships a Daerda lord.
i can't really think of anymore right now but I'm pretty sure there's more then 4 ideas out there.
Also to make the quest a bit more beefy i think it would of been pretty cool if the Stormcloaks tried to take back their fort that you stole from them, and it could be like an optional thing, you dont have to help defend it but you could if you wanted to. The only risk with not helping defend is they could take it over again.

Wipe out the Camps they said..

I tired..i tired SO HARD to kill that final leader Stormcloak but it's no use, it wont work, i hack at him and he stands back up i FusRoDa him off a cliff...nope still alive, it's like they made them a permanent character just to reeaaalllllyyyy annoy. Sorry, General I'm a failure to the Legion because i cant kill the last guy :unsure2:

So most of the points apply to the Stormcloaks as well, but you'll never catch me playing those evil blighters :stare:
Well that's what i thought they could of done a bit better, do you agree with my points or do you think I'm wrong? Discuss :)
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Post » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:08 pm

There is a thread with the http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1359648-civil-war-cut-content/. Most of the content was for the civil war.
I was looking through the civil war scripts just to try to figure out how to check which side had won and discovered quite the rabbit hole. Attacking and defending any/every hold capital, burning down mills, recruiting giants, encouraging soldiers to defect... we got a really cut down version of what was planned. A lot of the scripting is still there. The icing on the cake is the recorded dialog for Galmar/Rikke to start these quests is still in the files. (Unfortunately, I didn't find any evidence of voices for these quests other than the initial assignments.) I can't let myself get sidetracked off the quests I'm building, but I'm sure someone in the community will want to take this on.

At some point you could convince giants to fight with you. You could intercept couriers (in was probably more in depth than the current one), etc etc.
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