Could anyone explain the ending of Deus Ex: HR to me?

Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:13 am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZI-aDLxfgA

I just got this ending and, sorry if this thread is kind of a waste, but I really want to know what happened to Jensen. I mean, it says that change cannot come without change. Does this mean that, since augments were gotten rid of, Adam removed his augments and died a "human" death? Can someone here explain? Also, what was everyone's favourite endings?


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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:55 am

Pretty sure what ultimately happened is Adam Jensen was an example of what augments could do since he didn't have the bad side effects and then the story goes into the original Deus Ex with Denton brothers.

I chose the ending the ending that was most beneficial to the world with augments.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:52 am

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He died on there, not removing his augmentations, just died with the project as to try and stop augmentations.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:20 am

I think a lot of it is left for you to make your own mind up over what happens next.

I really liked how there is a difference in the voice over depending on how aggressive you were. That for me was really satisfying to hear.
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Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:04 pm

None of the endings actually tell you what happened as a result of your decision, they're just Adam Jensen waxing philosophy and ultimately explaining why he did what he did. His fate and that of the rest of the world is left up in the air.

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And ultimately, none of them change anything anyway, as the stinger after the credits shows you.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:16 am

Pretty sure what ultimately happened is Adam Jensen was an example of what augments could do since he didn't have the bad side effects and then the story goes into the original Deus Ex with Denton brothers.

I chose the ending the ending that was most beneficial to the world with augments.
I haven't yet played through the original Deus Ex as, since I already knew Human Revolution was a prequel and its storyline flowed properly as a standalone title, I really didn't care about nor even plan on playing the original after Human Revolution. Of course, I am going to now because Human Revolution was amazing (except the boss fights that is). As for the endings, I sided with Hugh Darrow. I hate his guts for causing countless innocents to die, but it just raised some serious concerns about augmentation and I also didn't want to lie to the world. I mean, if it did get to the point in the real world where we could all become cyborg, what would actually happen if someone hacked us or something?
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Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:08 pm

None of the endings actually tell you what happened as a result of your decision, they're just Adam Jensen waxing philosophy and ultimately explaining why he did what he did. His fate and that of the rest of the world is left up in the air.

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And ultimately, none of them change anything anyway, as the stinger after the credits shows you.
From what I read on a couple of articles, the developers haven't out-ruled a sequel to Human Revolution. Since the original Deus Ex is set around 25 years after Human Revolution, there is plenty of time left in the timeline.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:11 am

Is Human Revolution even still in the same world? Since it is technically a revival/reboot, are the developers classing the original as cannon in this universe?
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:00 pm

Should I play the original as it came bundled with HR on Onlive?
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:49 am

I think a lot of it is left for you to make your own mind up over what happens next.

I really liked how there is a difference in the voice over depending on how aggressive you were. That for me was really satisfying to hear.
Really? Well, Jensen in mine sounded rather neutral if perhaps slightly angry in one or two lines...
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:12 am

Is Human Revolution even still in the same world? Since it is technically a revival/reboot, are the developers classing the original as cannon in this universe?
Yes, it's in the same world as the original DX. A few characters get name-dropped in emails (Joseph Manderley, DeBears, Morgan Everett), and Bob Page is an important background figure. The after-credits stinger also effectively marks the beginning of the chain of events that lead to DX.

Should I play the original as it came bundled with HR on Onlive?
[censored] yes.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:58 pm

Okay. Well, might I ask what ending is cannon?
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:59 pm

Okay. Well, might I ask what ending is cannon?

None(any) of them.

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Though the Sarif, and self destruct ending make the most sense, there's nothing suggesting that humanity can't still change to view augs as acceptable in the 25 years after HR
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:38 am

I don't even remember what happened. Doesn't say much for the story ...
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Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:42 pm

In a way, you could say that all or none of the endings are canon. Aspects of them all can be seen reflected in Deus Ex, and regardless of what happens, Bob Page becomes empowered and acquires everything he needs to put his plans into action.

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Corporate regulations are loosened. UNATCO is formed to deal with terrorist threats, aug-related or not. The Illuminati continue to try to take control of the world, with their splinter group, MJ12, eventually turning to the Grey Death to do so. And mechanized augmentations just go out of favor as nanotechnology takes over.

Though I'm going to guess that the Destroy Panchaea ending will be the canon one. It just seems to be the safest.
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Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:22 pm

None(any) of them.

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Though the Sarif, and self destruct ending make the most sense, there's nothing suggesting that humanity can't still change to view augs as acceptable in the 25 years after HR
But, in the original Deus Ex, almost nobody has mechanical augments. This makes me think that something caused people to switch from using the more mechanical computer augments to the nano-augmentation.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:44 am

Okay. Well, might I ask what ending is cannon?
Arguments could be made for any one of them, but none of them are really a clean fit with what we know happens in the future of the series. The only thing that's certainly canon is the stinger at the end.

Personally I wasn't really a fan of the endings, they seemed to kind of go against the scale of the rest of the game. For most of the game it's like the story knows you can't really change anything, so it focuses instead on telling a more personal story, with most of the main and side missions revolving around Adam searching for Megan, helping those close to him, and discovering the truth about his own history. Then at the end it suddenly tries to act as if you can change something, except then instead of giving you proper, definite endings, with perhaps one being clearly canonical with the others being nice "what if?" scenarios, it just gives you a bunch of wishy-washy endings, none of which really match with the original game, and just generally making it feel like nothing you did had an impact. I would have much preferred that they'd kept the story at the personal level, perhaps at the end just showing how your actions affected the lives of the people you met.
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Post » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:37 pm

But, in the original Deus Ex, almost nobody has mechanical augments. This makes me think that something caused people to switch from using the more mechanical computer augments to the nano-augmentation.
Don't you play as one of the first nano-augmented agents in Deus Ex? I think most augmented people are still using mechanical ones. It's just that most people don't seem to have them at all. The general population having augmentations was a big deal in HR, but not so much in the original. I don't think they're very socially accepted anymore either, if I remember an UNATCO e-mail/book right.
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Post » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:59 am

Yeah if I remember right, augs were still somewhat common in DX, but the nano-augs were just coming out(Of which JC was one)

Doesn't help that most non-military/secretbase DX locations were slums so augs wouldn't be as common there.
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