For Pete:

http://wegotthiscovered.com/news/bethesda-sold-wiiu/

Cut the bullcrap. You have nothing else to say then make up this ridicolous assumptions, this is the best system nintendo made, the best controller, and it's hardware will smoke anything that was ever made on X360 and PS3 combined.

You need to wait to see others succeed to copy their strategy, as Bethesda can't make a risk (and win big) once in a while, Carmack wants to make DOOM3 WiiU version but Zenimax forced them to work on only on Doom4.
That is the real story; now what would you have said in your worthless interview if there was a WiiU version of Doom3 already in development ? Those 2 ridicolous rules won't be even mentioned is what I 99% expect.

If Doom3 is on on WiiU in the launch period - Ubisoft's going to take all the advantage, their games will be remembered and they'll eat everyone's lunch because everyone's waiting everyone else to see what they'll do, that's what big parasite companies do.

Bethesda Marketing is full of [censored]. And I've been telling everyone and Gstaff for months about the Rage stuff, see, I wasn't making it up.

Marketing people are to take every opportuninity to spin worthless BS into an full fledged interview for ... marketing purposes ofcourse.

Glady read the interview but don't take it seriously, as pretty much anything can change in the next few months, and he speaks in personal capacity, obviously has no idea what WiiU is, which means his opinion is irrelevant.

Most of what he says get's also twisted by the media which makes that into the BS factor as a result. Because media takes this as an opinion of the whole studio and everybody there. If Carmack makes agreement with Zenimax and they'll let him do Doom3 BFG on WiiU, bethesda marketing can't do [censored] about that decision.

So you're saying that, moving forward, Bethesda should publish old games that already exist on the Xbox 360 for a Nintendo console?

That doesn't seem like progress to me.

Well, Beth already have their hands full with the PS3. Look in the bright side(if you're a TES fan)if the next TES game is like Skyrim, you won't be missing much.

And as I should expect, for those that will want to discredit this whole thread just because they have a problem with what WiiU hardware really is, I will spend a few seconds and link these into the thread:

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-premiere-wii-u-specs/

OooE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-order_execution
"Compute Shaders": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU (leak has DX specific terms, WiiU actually has OGL counterparts)

Friendly Advice: Don't listen to bullcrap devs/anonymous sources who say CPU is weaker just because it has "less MHZ than X360", that is complete and utter nonsense.

I wasn't directly involved in tech specs discussions because i only got account activated past E3 - there hasn't been much direct spec talk lately but it was about RAM, i won't search all the tons of little tidbit posts, RAM was rumored to be 1.5GB but some new reports may indicate it was upped to 2GB total (retail)

Here's an example what's I researched - among other things:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41490721

So I talk about tech every day practically,

I am not talking about Bethesda Game Studios

Pete hines talked about Bethesda Softworks and the way he did it was implied he included all of their devs studios, I've explained why it is BS.

To be sure he has no idea him self what the heck was he saying because it's not clear if it was meant to be for first-parties only or both.

I have edited the thread title, spouting vulgarities in a post is bad enough but in the thread title as well does you no favors.

It is up to Bethesda to make the call if they are able to make a profit developing for that platform. If you are right and they are wrong, then Bethesda will have missed out on making some money. If it is obvious that they are missing out on cash, they will start developing for it. I can't see how it is a slam dunk to develop games for an additional console and "win big". Beth does not have a moral obligation to try to make the Wii U a success.

Bethesda Softworks has no control over id Software.



That proves the level of upset. I've been tolerant for a long long time, but it must end somewhere.

I have no problem with devs having their own (so far still a top secret) reasons for not doing this or that, having an explanation I would totally accept, I just hate when makerting twists that, tries to hide what's going on, and talks some ludicrus stuff to the media, tell me, anyone, how does this make sense for more sales ? They're just making fools of them selfs.

I watched all of the QuakeCon panels many times, the 2011 community managers panel they keept saying how they try to help stop false information from spreading, good job at gamesas, Rage had a lot of confusion they didn't do anything about it, then half of the people thought it's an RPG. If Id software interviews with Willits were not clear enough what genre the game is, because It really is a unique one, then that's the job of marketing to try to fix and post clarifications throughout their media/customer channels which they didn't.

I was found doing that work, I should be pardoned for this thread at least, as they deserve it.

I've being end up saving their ass and trying to fix trainwreck threads of 1000s of confused people who had wild assumptions what Rage was and the level of BS was so huge in mainstream I didn't saw in a while. People just didn't mix it for RPG, they also talked all the other stuff about it which wasn't true, the tech-stuff as well.

The less Bethesda gets involved with Nintendo, the better.

Do you realize what I'm talking about ? It's that marketing that talks something for them selfs, they're saying like they're for everyone but they're not.

Funny irony you used there the slam dunk term.

I will make it big enough so everyone can see:

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-wii-u-is-slam-dunk-for-id-tech-5-games-says-john-carmack/




What I am explaining in this thread is CONFLICTING INFORMATION that comes from Marketing.
If you don't know the structure of how Zenimax works and how other studios interact with Beth Softworks then there was a good PP presentation made by Howard in a conference some years back, it's on youtube.