Now Ive read many posts and complaints about Bethesda products on the ps3 being unplayable and buggy as government housing. However I've been extremely fortunate in the fact that through oblivion, both fallouts and skyrim I've experienced no issues beyond framerate drop. So my question is, to those of you experiencing major issues, how do you typically play these massive open world games? Fast travel vs exploration, item dupes, kill every npc possible, utilize exploits and all the things I can't think of right now. Tell me your issues, and how you typically play.

Pick every weapon up because they don't disappear.

Yeah, I would like to know too.
How do people mess their game up so bad that it becomes unplayable? How did you do that.. !?

I've played Oblivion/Skyrim/both Fallouts extensively on PS3 (and Xbox) and never had any problems worth mentioning.

But that's a good thing to do. OP is asking what things people do to mess their game up.

Just weapons or clear all bodies of all loot? I'm assuming this is to help solve save game bloating?

Pick up loose weapons and store them all on a dead body.
Dead bodies will eventually get deleted. (in most cases)

Thankfully, the bodies get deleted. Unfortunately, the weapons don't.
I also laugh at bodies turning invisible when decapitated.

We just play it the way it was meant to be played and Bethesda's shoddy coding does the rest. A game is a piece of software, a bug or glitch is the result of bad design, how can it possibly be the players fault?

Sorry guys, but I find it very very unlikely that you've played both Fallouts and Skyrim and suffered no issues worth mentioning. No broken quests? No missing NPCs? No corrupted cell areas? No items forever stuck in your inventory? No hardlocks or crashes that need you to switch off the console?

Crashes, yes of course. But they usually just occur after playing for 6 hours.
A simple restart and back to normal. (I'd say that's the consoles problem, not the game)

I've only had two corrupt auto-saves on Fallout: NV, but otherwise never had one with a Bethesda game. (not even 10 years of Morrowind)

No broken quests come to mind.... at all. (well, ok, maybe some in Morrowind.... but they were small matters, and didn't "break" anything important)
I finished the Skyrim Thieves Guild and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Blood_on_the_Ice with no problems, while everyone else was crying about how "broken" they were. (before patches even)
I really feel like Skyrim is the most bug-free Bethesda game, and Oblivion and FO3 felt very solid too.

I am not saying these problems do not exist, I've just never really experienced anything that actually caused problems.


I'm not really counting Graphical bug/glitches, because all games have a few, and often do not repeat themselves in a harmful manner.

And I am not saying it is the players fault. Obviously certain things being done in the game are leading the flaws in the coding to rear their heads. Perhaps it's progression, or who knows. And believe it or not, I have had no glitches to speak of aside from framerate. I appreciate your input, but dont use this as an opportunity to turn this into a burn Bethesda because of subpar work. A lot of these issues are present on all platforms, just seems more so on the ps3. And I want to know how these people play the game and compare it to my methods. So do you have anything to add? How do you play and what issues are you experiencing?

This applies to me as well. I was extremely confused when I first came to this forum and saw someone refer to Skyrim as a 'buggy mess'. My copy was almost bug-free, and the same could be said for my friends who also played it. So while I sympathize with those whose games are riddled with bugs, I can't say that those complaints will tarnish my opinion of Skyrim.

Heck, I have more problems with Morrowind than Skyrim! And I have the Code Patch installed for Morrowind. Using Aryon's Helper crashed my game ...

I recently went back and played Fallout New Vegas for a bit and found it to be in much worse condition than Skyrim ever has been for me. It froze countless times in the short time I played it and I finally stopped when the game outright reset itself for no reason. I haven't even hit 50 hours in FNV and have already been ridden by more bugs in it than in my first 100 hours in Skyrim, so it at least seems to me that they have somewhat improved the coding. I don't even want to know what the game of the year edition is like...