and not a clue on what to use them on XD

attemtping to play a pure mage but wondering if should hold onto them till has 100 speach or invest them in my level 50 smithing just cuz the abundance of dragons ...

has no reason to invest them in half costing magicka perks cuz of 100 enchanting enables me to make 4 peices of equipment with 2 magick skills on one item = 25% less cast charge up to 100% for two skills any two skills even my unperked level 19 alteration

how do you level alteration by the way i mean nothing i cast from my alteration book seems to give any XP towards an alteration level up but i know once i can get paralyse it levels so easily its almost as big a joke as conjuration with soul trapping dead bodies .-.


also wasn't there supposed to be a patch that stopped iron daggers from giving smithing xp ? cuz with patch 1.7 i still managed to get 39 levels of smithing crafting daggers

You still get xp from making iron daggers, however you get more experience for making more expensive items.
Also the first levels are much easier to level up than the later ones

You need to cast the alteration spell by an enemy. My recommendation is get a giant by whiterun to chase you, and continually cast summon sword oakflesh or any of those spells in each hand. Thats what I do when grinding to 81. Works much faster if you get the necessary enchanting perks to have 100 percent cost on alteration down. once you get high enough to buy the telekinesis spell, however, all you need to do is hold something continuously. It sky rockets your alteration skill.

i found paralysis faster than telekenisis the last time i leveled alteration i just forget what the crap i casted prior to hasing paralyse and i know i never used telekenisis much cuz dont like messing up homes too much + does little damage throwing crap at people its a kinda useless spell

also bound weapon is conjuration not alteration

Lol, you're right. I meant oakflesh or any of those, since the technique is the same for both. Telekinesis was always useless, but good fun.

Hm...I've always enjoyed throwing buckets at that male beggar in Riften.

so what do i use my current 4 and future perk points for only like level 32