Games Journalism Scandal

Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:18 am

A journalist at Eurogamer has been forced to resign after they amended his article, removing quotes from other 'games journalists'. Apparently in the UK, you can't handle the truth.

Rpgcodex has a great article summarizing the events that unfolded and the explosion of hillarious misdeeds and controversy that ensued. Read it and think about why big games press sites are not reporting on peer censorship.


EDIT: Oh well... I tried to link it, but it is the headline news story on the Rpgcodex site today.
EDIT: Did not know that Rpgcodex is censored here... LoL :mage:


Here is the original article that started it all:

http://wosland.podgamer.com/a-table-of-cowards/

Here is the edited version:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos

some more articles from around the web that are inspired by the incident:

http://wosland.podgamer.com/the-wainwright-profile/

http://botherer.org/2012/10/26/guest-post-robert-florence-on-the-last-few-days/

http://botherer.org/2012/10/25/a-bit-of-perspective/

Some lengthy threads about it at neogaf and rpgcodex as well.

EDIT: the article at RPGCodex is the one I can't link... google that
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Devin Sluis
 
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:39 pm

Haha what's the censored site you linked?
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:40 am

Oh the humanity! Umm... OK...
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:38 am

Maybe if they had more nudity...
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:11 am

The full article Gurkog is referring to from the codex:

http://www.rpgcodex/content.php?id=8579
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:05 am

EDIT: thanks undecaf!
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Samantha Mitchell
 
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:14 am

Apparently in the UK, you can't handle the truth.
Pfft, broad genralisation. Tell that to IGN.

Yeah I've seen this story before. Sad state of the modern times. Still not seen the full non-edited version myself (I've not clicked OP's links just yet- going out quick post for now) but it is pretty out of order to personally attack people for whatever reason (assuming the edited section was a 'personal' attack? - my point is invalid if it were not). However I think there should be a leeway for this kind of thing. Opinion is journalism, might be a load of old tat but it still is what makes it 'journalism' because after all this is the 21st Century and you must never confuse the words journalism and news.
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:45 pm

Pfft, broad genralisation. Tell that to IGN.

Yeah I've seen this story before. Sad state of the modern times. Still not seen the full non-edited version myself (I've not clicked OP's links just yet- going out quick post for now) but it is pretty out of order to personally attack people for whatever reason (assuming the edited section was a 'personal' attack? - my point is invalid if it were not). However I think there should be a leeway for this kind of thing. Opinion is journalism, might be a load of old tat but it still is what makes it 'journalism' because after all this is the 21st Century and you must never confuse the words journalism and news.

He did not attack them, which is why this is a controversy. I am trying to find sites that have the unedited post.

EDIT: original unedited article: http://wosland.podgamer.com/a-table-of-cowards/
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:24 am

I should get into games journalism. I could use the free stuff.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:30 am

I looked at the Codex article but had a bit of a case of "tl;dr". A journalist being dishonest isn't exactly news though, unless I've missed something.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:54 am

*yawn* Another one? Come back when its a catastrophe
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:57 am

It was already obvious that these "journalists" favor the companies that fund them, but it's pretty pathetic how they can't see any fault in their actions, and act the the truth is some kind of personal attack.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:05 am

I looked at the Codex article but had a bit of a case of "tl;dr". A journalist being dishonest isn't exactly news though, unless I've missed something.
The issue seems less "journalists being dishonest" and more "journalists don't realize what they're doing is dishonest and try to censor a journalist who says it is".

Journalists get a chance to win a free PS3 for tweeting about a game. People say that's bad. Journalist A says "How is it bad if a company gives us free stuff?" Journalist B says exactly why that's bad and uses A as a hypothetical example. A gets B censored for libel even though B only ever quoted A in verbatim and shared his own opinions.
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:57 pm

So.... Jerry McGuire: The videogame.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:57 am

The issue seems less "journalists being dishonest" and more "journalists don't realize what they're doing is dishonest and try to censor a journalist who says it is".

Journalists get a chance to win a free PS3 for tweeting about a game. People say that's bad. Journalist A says "How is it bad if a company gives us free stuff?" Journalist B says exactly why that's bad and uses A as a hypothetical example. A gets B censored for libel even though B only ever quoted A in verbatim and shared his own opinions.

That sounds perfectly normal behaviour for journalists, though. Which is probably why journalism is the one profession that's even more distrusted than politics.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:43 pm

Forbes has better articles, OP.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/25/video-game-journalist-robert-florence-leaves-eurogamer-after-libel-complaints/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/26/all-the-pretty-doritos-how-video-game-journalism-went-off-the-rails/
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:36 am

That sounds perfectly normal behaviour for journalists, though. Which is probably why journalism is the one profession that's even more distrusted than politics.
Sure, but it should still be called out. That's not what journalism is supposed to be. If we become complacent to it just because it's "normal", it'll get worse. It's a good example of a slippery slope.

Imagine every reviewer's wages paid by the publishers they review. Elaborate gifts for high scores. Critics of the system are censored for even suggesting corruption is a possibility.
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