Any users wanna help me catch up on Dragonborn?

Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:00 am

I'm back after my absence of months due to Halo 4.

Anyway, I saw the Dragonborn trailer, got a new pair of pants and came back, I've been to a few speculation threads all over the place, here and Neogaff. But Skyrim is my first TES game (I would like to go back and play the others but they don't seem to appeal to me) and Solstheim (Probably spelt that wrong) is from morrowind...which I have no Idea about I also have little knowledge on the TES lore in general right now. So I need to catch up so I can help with all this speculating because I love doing it and learning about lore in games. None of the things in the trailer are familiar to me aside from skyrim looking things so would someone like to break it down or explain some charectars,places, enemies of importance?. So far all I really know is that you go to a daedric realm of books and water creature thingies, some volcano erupted making morrowind unlivable causing dunmer to move to Sostheim which was given to them by the nords. Also there's something called corpus and ascended sleepers, goblin people and so on.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:58 am

The enemy *may* be the very first Dragonborn. That's about all I can say right now. Not much to know about the DLC
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:47 am

Just read the first post of any of the Dragonborn discussion threads. Very informative.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:05 pm

The enemy *may* be the very first Dragonborn. That's about all I can say right now. Not much to know about the DLC

Well that much I know from the trailer (Awesome) but I meant more a long the lines of things from morrowind and possible candidates for the first dragon born as in who are they and what did they do.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:43 pm

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Sadly, on 360, presumably, as a 30 exclusive 360, on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Take what you will from that....

Teaser picture http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/681455957.jpeg.
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s.

Observations
Video contains information about some ex-Dragon-Priest-come-hipster-Dragonborn who ruled over Solstheim and liked to eat dragons. He makes a return in Dragonborn.

Links to interesting parts of the video and their respective stills.
Spoiler
Partial boatride 0m04s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=4s) (http://i.imgur.com/3Hihm.jpg)
Overview of Solstheim 0m23s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=23s) (http://i.imgur.com/jpKVN.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m25s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=25s) (http://i.imgur.com/vWbdc.jpg)
Netch 0m27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=27s) (http://i.imgur.com/jJKdz.jpg)
Dunmer village 0m28s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=28s) (http://i.imgur.com/TGLpk.jpg)
Miraak temple 0m38s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=38s) (http://i.imgur.com/2uPWc.jpg)
Standing stone 0m39s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=39s) (http://i.imgur.com/l52BX.jpg)
Tentacles from book grabbing Dragonborn, presumably taking them into Hermaeus Mora's realm 0m40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=40s) (http://i.imgur.com/ykgJE.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m47s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=47s) (http://i.imgur.com/lgnUK.jpg)
Dragon riding 0m50s and 1m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=70s) (http://i.imgur.com/7RMDt.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/QSuI2.jpg)
Bonemold Armor 0m50s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s) (http://i.imgur.com/yjU6P.jpg)
Scourge (axe) 0m56s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=56s) (http://i.imgur.com/Z9DlP.jpg)
1H spears (NPC) 0m59s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=59s) (http://i.imgur.com/3UxYb.jpg)
Gravedigger (sword) 1m03s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=63s) (http://i.imgur.com/DKRcu.jpg)
2H spears (NPC) 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Stalhrim armor 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Rieklings and rieklings on boars 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
(give me more links and I'll put them here, append #t=XXmYYs to the video URL for timecode)

Albums containing the same + more stills.
http://imgur.com/a/8ezW3
http://imgur.com/a/l4yL2 (Can you identify some of these?)

Every frame from the trailer http://www.mediafire.com/?ymyt9gap5k2w1xi


Speculation
Boat Arrival into what is likely where Raven Rock was.
Antagonist is a former Dragon Priest, as well as the first Dragonborn and had dominion over Solstheim
Redoran Architecture present in walled city.
Giant Mushroom foilage. Terraformed Solstheim or Nothern coast of Morrowind?
Several new Daedra - One of which looks eerily like the Sixth House priests in service to Dagoth Ur

Info found in 1.8 CK update
Player dragon mounts are in.
2 new Achievements out of, at least, 10 are Solstheim Explorer, of which you need to discover 30 locations, and Stalhrim Crafter

Info found in 1.8 Updates
The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name of HMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

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Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :smile:
Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420627-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-30/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420666-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-31/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420699-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-32/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420797-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-33/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420887-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-34/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420987-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-35/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421043-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-36/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421094-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-37/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421130-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-38/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421151-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-39/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421157-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-40/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421165-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-41/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421172-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-42/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421221-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-44/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421272-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-45/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361, and http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21654653 for dragon riding. Also, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/page__view__findpost__p__21749310 for the CK Update.

Also you can look through (my) Mardoxx' previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:14 am

Well that much I know from the trailer (Awesome) but I meant more a long the lines of things from morrowind and possible candidates for the first dragon born as in who are they and what did they do.

I've seen some people thinking the first Dragonborn is Konahrik. Again, I don't know much.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:07 pm

Just keep watching the Bethesda Blog in the upcoming weeks for more details.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:45 am

Though didn't the video say he was a Dragon Priest but didn't worship the dragons? He just devoured them I think.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:09 am

Though didn't the video say he was a Dragon Priest but didn't worship the dragons? He just devoured them I think.

Yes. The trailer did say that.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:34 am

Yes. The trailer did say that.
I doubt it'd be Konahriik unless he was a Warlord against the Dragons...Though you could argue the other way around.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Though didn't the video say he was a Dragon Priest but didn't worship the dragons? He just devoured them I think.

Its an interesting choice of words, at the very least. However, my understanding of the Dragon Cult was that worship wasn't necessarily required, so long as the cultists did as the Dragons commanded (some may have pushed the boundaries more in their arrogance).
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:18 am

I also have little knowledge on the TES lore in general right now.

Short Lore recap

(aeons ago)

dragons ruled tamriel

(verry long time ago)

Talos founded the empire, he was a dragonborn
(But I don't think he's the dragonborn we'll be facing, he was no dragonpriest)

(some time ago)
(Daggerfall story)

The Septims emperor conquered all of Tamriel using a giant robot called numdium

(Morrowind story)

in the far past, before Talos era, Dunmer battled nords
Among the dunmer were 5 heroes
Nerevar, Vivec, Sotha Sil, Almalexia and Dagoth Ur
They discovered the remains of the dead god Lorkhan.
(A massive giant skeleton with a stilll beating hearh)

They tapped into the remaining power of the hearth, and turn themselves into gods
Nerevar opposed this, and vivec betrayed him and killed him

In the Morrowind story the player is the reincarnation of Nerevar
He's stuck in a twisted story line where the 4 remaining heroes-turned-gods are going mad
Vivec decided that tapping into Lorkan's hearth had unforseen effect
Driving them mad while spreading a corrupting blight over the land
that turned animals into monsters

You end up destroying the hearth, destroying the gods gone mad, and pretty much ending an era

In the final expansion you go to Solstheim and destroy a curse put there by the Daedra Hircine

(Oblivion)

Doh ! The screen between reality and Oblivion fail !
The Daedra Merhunes Dagon invade in physical form
You and the last Septim stop him. Nuff said

(Post Oblivion)

Some guy find a dwemer flying city and crash it into the big volcano in morrowind,
causing it to erupt and destroy the whole province
meanwhile argonians see it as an opportunity and invade
Dunmer (dark elves) flee to Solstheim and Skyrim,
other are enslaved by Argonians

(Beyond that, Skyrim story)

with the septims line dead, chaos spread, provinces secede,
the aldmeri dominion is reborn in the high elves province (south west, oposite of morrowind)
I think you're familiar with that

dragons return .... civil war

(Dragonborn story)

Some dead dragonborn dragonpriest dude wants to return and wreck havoc
seems to be hapening in solstheim
seems the Telvani are returning
(The Telvani are a powerfull dunmer mages great house (clan)
that makes imperial mage college look like Hogward first year student noobs)

Solstheim is also home to the rieklings (ice tribes)

(postscript notes)

weird stuff is there were rumor over the internet
about a blight and dead raising back from the graves
and the dwemer returning as powerfull wraiths ...
I guess it was just wishfull thinking
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:50 pm

(Post Oblivion)

Some guy find a dwemer flying city and crash it into the big volcano in morrowind,
causing it to erupt and destroy the whole province
meanwhile argonians see it as an opportunity and invade
Dunmer (dark elves) flee to Solstheim and Skyrim,
other are enslaved by Argonians


I'm guessing this is the books Infernal city and lord of souls?
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 am

I'm guessing this is the books Infernal city and lord of souls?
Yes it is. There's more to it than that, so if you have some time and absolutely no interest in playing Morrowind and Bloodmoon (expansion to MW that covered Solstheim the first time), then you should go read up on the events/creatures/places on some of the sites out there. I would highly recommend playing Morrowind though, even if you just run through the events of bloodmoon with a console command god character. It will give you some background as well as letting you in on some of the places on Solstheim.

Look up Herma-Mora and Apocrypha, his daedric realm. Should answer your questions.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:08 am

Btw.. not sure when a dwemer city crashed into Red Mountain... and the whole province was not destroyed.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:39 pm

Btw.. not sure when a dwemer city crashed into Red Mountain... and the whole province was not destroyed.
Yes it is. There's more to it than that, so if you have some time and absolutely no interest in playing Morrowind and Bloodmoon (expansion to MW that covered Solstheim the first time), then you should go read up on the events/creatures/places on some of the sites out there. I would highly recommend playing Morrowind though, even if you just run through the events of bloodmoon with a console command god character. It will give you some background as well as letting you in on some of the places on Solstheim.

Look up Herma-Mora and Apocrypha, his daedric realm. Should answer your questions.
Yup, I plan on playing Morrowind and the expansions, I personally just have a hard time getting into older games :/

Btw.. not sure when a dwemer city crashed into Red Mountain... and the whole province was not destroyed.

As per the books, 40 years after the oblivion crisis, so 4E 40
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:16 am

Btw.. not sure when a dwemer city crashed into Red Mountain... and the whole province was not destroyed.
It happened. Though it wasn't exactly a dwemer city. It was the Ministry of Truth, a magically levitating island prison used by Morrowind's Tribunal to house opponents of their Temple's propaganda. After the demise of the Tribunal, it lost its source of power, and a chain of events (which you'll find out in The Infernal City) unfolded that resulted in it crashing into Red Mountain and triggering a massive volcanic cataclysm that resulted in what is now known as the Red Year. There are references to it all over in vanilla Skyrim.

I would highly recommend playing Morrowind though, even if you just run through the events of bloodmoon with a console command god character. It will give you some background as well as letting you in on some of the places on Solstheim.
I second this. You'll learn a lot about TES lore playing that game because that's the first entry in the series that enriched it substantially. Use all the mods/console commands you like to get around its clunky combat.

Yup, I plan on playing Morrowind and the expansions, I personally just have a hard time getting into older games :/
Get the Morrowind Overhaul 3.0 mod, it does wonders to this oldie's graphics.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:13 am

It was a moon dropped by a Daedra lord, not a dwemer city.
The tribunal holded it from fall. But with the tribunal gone, well, the rock resume his way down.
The crash on Vivec City destroyed it and caused the volcano to erupt, destroying most of the island of Vvardenfell, but no way the entire province of Morrowind.
The province itself was shocked by the argonian invasion though, so many problems all together.
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