So After getting Dawnguard, I not only can't load ANY of my old saves, it crashes after a few seconds of load scree; I can't start a new game either.
I turned off all mods, validated the steam files, reset the ini ect.
Nothing worked, please help me.

i just constantly get error code 51, i cant even get the launcher up since it installed the damn thing.

Kia ora

One point you may allready be aware of but is the Update.esm loaded before Dawnguard?

Was just a thought there seemed to be no info about the load order at release and the install put dawnguard after
the Update on my system, it wasn't till I started a thread I leaned about it

I don't understand what you're trying to say, is Dawnguard meant to load before or after update.esm, could you be more clear?
Also, I should have posted this, the error I'm getting. [img]http://puu.sh/QtNd[/img]

Go to [username]/AppData/Local/Skyrim (AppData is a hidden folder, enable visibility of hidden folders first), then open plugins.txt

The error code you get is usually caused by there being 2 Skyrim.esm entries at the top of the list in plugins.txt. Remove the Skyrim.esm entries, there shouldn't be any anyhow, save the changes to plugins.txt. The error should be gone now.

Thanks a lot! The issue is now gone.

Oh dear, I'm so glad I didn't waste money on skyrim for the pc, I'll happily play it on my Xbox though

Have fun not having endless amounts of new free content in Mods. I have it on both PC and Xbox. I put in 300 hours on my Xbox Version, just bought it on PC and I am already leaning towards the PC one now. Seriously any problems are usually easily fixable.

You do realize this isn't actually Skyrim's fault right, I just thought it was. The Nexus mod manager was causing it.

Isn't it a good thing I don't care for mods. I like keeping games original and not changing things. If I wanted to ruin my gaming experience i would have gone for PC Skyrim.

@Im Leeeeeeeeee

Obvious Troll is obvious. So you think mods are just there to ruin your game experience? You may not be aware of it, but mods can vastly improve
your game without changing anything. Im playing TES since 15 years, got every single game and spent 500 hours alone in Skyrim. I bought both
Oblivion and Skyrim for Xbox and PC. Don't ask me why, i guess i just wish i could enjoy TES games sitting on my comfortable leather coach, but
eventually, i always end up playing on the pc. Why? Because of the damn bugs. Alone in the base game there are two-hundreds of them or even
more, and just look at dawnguard. And don't delude yourself, 89% of those will never be fixed. So why would i play a game where i cant even enter
a dungeon without consulting the internet to make sure that it doesnt break any quests and constant CTDs, when i could play the same game in HD quality
without any bugs on PC? The only "mods" i installed are the official high texture pack from bethesda and the unofficial skyrim patch, because like you,
i want to enjoy the game as it meant to be played, without any lore-breaking stuff like Doom-Monsters or MyLittlePony-Dragons. Seriously, this console / pc
bashing is getting on my nerves. This is in no way meant as a payback move from a pc-masterrace player or such nonsense, but rather a honest reason
why mods are important, and why the pc IS the best platform to enjoy a TES game. Why? Because Bethesda is...Bethesda. They are making great games,
but they are horrible at scripting, bug finding and bug fixing. It always ends up the same : Deal with a buggy mess of a game or clean it up yourself. Which
we do. Always. Thank god we have the community. Maybe Bethesda should hire them to fix their games instead of the guys they have right now, maybe then
their console games wouldnt svck that much. The Xbox and the unmodded vanilla PC version may be horrible, but the PS3 guys...im sorry to say that, but
Bethesda should be ashamed. I friend of mine got it on PS3, and in my whole life i have never seen a buggier mess of a game.