Now that what I call an amazing ending to doom 3 universe! I now forgive everything to id for that experience! Now it's pretty clear that all the effort was put to make the best HELL level in entire doom 3 game and they f////n DID IT! Well DONE! It was AWESOME!

P.S. Should have played LM to the end before complaining!

I really wanna play this game but I can't bring myself to till they fix the issues, don't wanna tarnish my experience.

But I didn't like the boss though... I think the level and cutscene were cool, but the boss svcks in my opinion, being recycled and all....

The game is really good as it is. THANKS BETH.

Because i am not a hardcoe gamer anyway, i would really appreciated if they put some cheats-like GOD mode in the main menu, with on/off choice.
I WOULD PAY FOR IT... /because i want for the first time of my pathetic life to beat the final boss.

Hooray recycled bosses! :\

Lost mission was epic!

I would prefer a brand new level set and boss instead of partly reused maps and a reskinned Guardian boss minus Seekers.

But since I don't care for Doom 3 as much, classic Doom provides a nearly endless supply of maps to play.

Would you really prefer core id developers to move away from doom 4 in oder to create new boss for BFG? This is just a mission pack and it offers a pure DOOM experience within doom 3 concept, no soul cube, no cheats, just a DB-shotgun and demons! And, by the way, revealing some story elements!

The Lost Mission for sure kicks-major-ass

it would have been dope for an original end boss though, maybe even a tough doom 4 "new enemy" just to make us drool


i like the lost mission though great stuff

Okay id.dav, you make a very good point. They needed to still focus on Doom4.

I guess I wouldn't mind fighting the guardian again anyways, he was my favorite Doom boss. Yep. Not just Doom 3 boss, he was my favorite Doom boss period. The only thing I hated was how easy it is to beat him, and it still is in the BFG edition. So underpowered

I was talking about HELL level, not boss....still he was evil looking, nice retexturing, I'm ok with that.

Agreed, I feel this way about the multiplayer. So dissappointed.

I will go even further and say that the Lost Mission as a whole was my favorite part of the whole package. It was straightforward, well paced, the DBSG was awesome, and the reuse of bosses... well, this is Doom after all. Recycling bosses and enemies in first person shooters is pretty standard, but especially in Doom. So it didn't bother me whatsoever, personally.

Doom1 boss - Spider Mastermind
Doom2 boss - Icon of Sin
Doom3 boss -Cyberdemon
Doom64 boss - Mother Demon
Doom3 Lost Missions Boss - Guardian from Doom3

They've always added some new boss even with seeing an old one, because having no new boss is just sad. Hence the Lost Missions should've had it's own boss. When you look at the Lost Missions promotional wallpaper images, you see a monster that looks somewhat like the Guardian, but very very different, like a biped fat monster that goes around being beast. That monster did not show up in the Lost Mission

actually that monster on the promo and disc insert you see IS in fact the boss from the LM levels, look at the clobber fists

Those are all different games, though. Whereas this was merely additional mission content for an existing game. Just doesn't bug me. But I can see where it could.

No, it is similar, but not the same. If you know the Guardian's look by memory (like me), you know they are not the same. The Guardian isn't short and fat like that monster in the promo images, nor does he stand up straight like that, the Guardian isn't bipedal, he's a quad that can run for a bit on his hind legs.

Doom 1 episode 1 boss is Two Barons of Hell ( You found in Doom 1 all episode and Doom 2 all episode a lot of Baron of Hell )
Doom 1 epsiode 2 boss is Cyberdemon ( You found in doom 1 and Doom 2 all episodes a lot of Cyberdemon )
Doom 1 episode 3 boss is The Spidermastermind ( You found in Doom 1 and Doom 2 a lot of The Spidermastermind/The Spiderdemon same monster same ability)
Doom 1 episode 4 boss is The Spiderdemon (same monster as The Spidermastermind)

Doom 2 ( You found a lots of Baron of Hells,The Spidermasterminds/The Spiderdemons and The Cyberdemons ) and the Doom 2 level 30 boss is Icon of Sin

Doom 3 You fight with The Guardin who is blind and have Seekers but in Doom 3 end boss is The Cyberdemon
Doom 3 Ressurection of Evil Expansion boss is The Maledict ( Betruger )
Doom 3 The Lost Mission boss is The Guardian reskined and NO BLIND so no seekers

The best way You play : Doom 3 , The Lost Mission , Ressurection of Evil

And I think The Lost mission Guardian fight is the 1st Guardian fight so thats why He NO BLIND and no seekeres So The Doom 3 Marine is little late fight with the Raised Guardian ( Betruger Work ) and so He is now BLIND and He now have Seekers and He is Guard the Soul Cube ! Because The Lost Mission is in the Doom 3 Half Time Missions I hope Everyone understand me so You see The Lost Mission video in the Doom 3 half.

OK SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ? NO PROBLEM HERE WITH THE BOSS !

And I play old times when I a little kid with Doom 2 and Doom 3 and Doom 3 RoE ! And now I Buy the Doom 3 BFG Edition and I very very like it ! So I play now the 1st the with Doom 1 episode 1,2,3,4 and its so awesome ! And I play now again with Doom 2 And its so awesome and so retro and Now I play again with Doom 3 , and with the new The Lost Mission and the old RoE ! And its all awesome and good and I like it !

And YES the The Lost Mission HELL is KICK ASS !

I Buy the game in 2012.11.06 morning because in Hungary - Budapest all PC shop is not have The Doom 3 BFG Edition PC in the start time October 19th only PS3 and XBOX360....So I buy in 2012.11.06 morning the PC version and I very very like it and I want to say to ID and Bethesda a Very Big THX !

So look this ----> this is My Steam Doom 3 BFG Achivements ------> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058844656/stats/DOOM3BFGEdition?tab=achievements So I play 74,9 hour with the Doom 3 BFG Edition PC and I have 64/65 Achivements ! I only need the EVIL NIGHTMARE : Complete the RoE campaign on Nightmare So I like the BFG Edition ! And I hope We have soon new achivements or maps for Doom 1,2,3 And I hope ID and Bethesda soon patch the Multiplayer because BIG PING PROBLEMS

They could have released the LM as a DLC/standalone addon like RoE was.

I found this on the Doom Wiki :

The Guardian of Hell, or simply known as the Guardian, is the second boss in Doom 3. It is seen exclusively when the player reaches the end of the Hell level.

In Resurrection of Evil the head of the Guardian is engraved on some stone tablets. This could mean that either the Guardian left Hell to assist in the invasion, some of Mars' civilization saw it in Hell, there may be more than one guardian, or it was simply aesthetically pleasing to the game's designers.

A somewhat modified version of the Guardian appears as the final boss of The Lost Mission mini-expansion campaign included with the BFG Edition. He appears as the final enemy guarding the captured teleportation unit located deep inside Hell. This version of the Guardian uses similar attacks as the regular version, but is not blind and does not launch seekers. Instead of deploying seekers, this Guardian lobs a series of mortar-like energy balls from his back. He can be harmed by regular weapons fire, and does not need to be targeted in a special area, unlike the regular Guardian. Conversely, he has more health than the regular version.

Bear_Diablo, you post is interesting and all, but what were you trying to say?
They can come up with why the Guardian is fought again and that's nice if they can tie it in to the story, but a new boss would still have been far better, you know? It's almost entirely certain that during development some monsters never made it to the final Doom3 game, so they should've gotten one of those instead, and just finished its AI and set it to go.

Anywho it seems you misunderstood my posts, I was mentioning the final bosses, there's no need to mention every single boss, otherwise you would've had to mention Vagary and Sabaoth, which you left out

Yes LOL Vagary Doom 3 and RoE an The Lost Mission is have more Vagary than one but Sabaoth that stupid noob Boss the Marine Boss I hate that man

And I just want say the Doom boss things and just want say I think no problem with the "new" Guardian boss.

But maybe I want see in Doom 3 the The Spidermastermind big spider with machinegun so maybe that boss in LM end is cool to but no Spidermastermind in Doom 3 Only in Doom 1 and 2