Sooo I just did the high chaos ending and I wondered what would happen if I just let emily dropped and I did. As I watched the ending the outsider sounds really pleased with the results considering the way he was talking compared to the other endings. After watching this to me it seems like the outsider wanted corvo to destroy the empire. Here I will link a video to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d77H58KtW98

What do you lot think? Cause he sounds really happy with what corvo did.

I don't think he really Corvo to do anything in particular just be interesting, and if being a dike and letting Emily fall made things interesting he enjoyed it.

Yeah but in the other endings he sounds depressed/dissapointed. Plus i mean honestly he seemed like to me he wanted corvo to wreck/destroy the empire after getting this ending I mean it seems to "fit" compared to the other endings. Maybe its just me.

I mean he pretty much says in that ending that the empire is rotted and filled with corruption and needed an avenging spirit to destroy it which is corvo. The way he is talking corvo entertained him and plus he did what he/it thought was the correct action which is to bring chaos and destruction to the empire.

I mean he calls what corvo did in this ending justice.

I think he's being passive aggressive in the last ending too. He says Corvo is running away this time.

Twists in events/plots are loved for one reason. Unpredictability. Unpredictability is the motherload of entertainment, no things gives such pleasure of having events turn in a completely unforseen way. This is probably why the outsider loved the dark outcome. Not because he is evil and revels in chaos by itself. But because that outcome was something he didnt anticipate. And for someone of his power - something he didnt anticipate - playing out - must have been thrilling.

Uhm, no, not really. The Outsider doesn't take joy in the act, but rather the outcome. If Corvo went out and killed a little kid, just for the fun of it, it wouldn't make a difference. But, if that little kid was a very important piece in the chessboard of life, then we'd be having a different conversation.

And he really isn't passive aggressive since he never directly implies anything.


Well, he can see the future, but yeah I agree he didn't expect things to play out in THAT way.

Well anyway out of the three endings this is my favorite one but I can see why he liked this one the most since in the other two endings he sounds bored lol considering the way he is narrating in those two endings. I mean he can see various outcomes right? I think he expected the low chaos or high chaos endings but the high chaos +emily dying he did not see that outcome coming at all.

But still for some reason I can't shake the feeling that the outsider wanted the empire to crumble. He pretty much says that corvo destroying was the right call in his eyes, maybe I am over thinking it.

My favorite is the High Chaos one where Emily dies. Really like his speech in that one.

Same to me personally that ending "fits" the theme/atompshere of the game, well this is just my opinion.

Well, if you listen to what he says at the shrines, then it sounds more like he takes joy in seeing what decisions people make when given power, and why they make them. Case and point if you spare Daud. The Outsider never mentions anything about what the repercussions of letting him live, just that he was fascinated by his decisions not only then but throughout the game. Also during the Soklolov mission he states that he is only interested in interesting people.

The way I see it the Outsider grants powers to people he deems interesting because he thinks they will make interesting decisions and thus put on a good show for him. Now that doesn't mean he cant take joy in certain outcomes of those decisions, just that most of his enjoyment comes from seeing his chosen making those choices along the way.

Well the outsider is kinda a [censored] if he enjoys the high chaos + letting emily die that much. Heh i bet he was not even expecting emily to die at all which is why he liked it so much the chaos and the empire crumbling on its own corruption must of made a great show for him.

He must of had popcorn in his hand as he was narrating that ending.

Exactly. He didn't really want the empire to crumble and he didn't see it coming so it became very entertaining for him to watch. And yes the Outsider is very wuch a MASSIVE dike. He only views us as toys set there for his pleasure. Hell the heart he gave us to find runes is the heart of the empress with her soul trapped in it, so yes he is a dike.

And the point has missed the target yet again. Just when I thought it stuck perfectly.

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. Can this post please be deleted by a mod? Sorry!

What point did I miss exactly? Please explain.

oh snap i did not know that holy hell. He actually did that with the empress lol man is a troll.

The Outsider is a very interesting character for a video game. It would be very hard to develop him without adding pathos in his backstory or anything, but as a beholder he is perfect.

I absolutely didn't feel he was more happy in the high chaos/emily dies ending than in the others. I do felt, however, that he was very respectful of the feats of Corvo in the low chaos ending. He may be able to see the outcomes, but he has absolutely no idea which one will prevail. To me, the Outsider is merely a guy playing with dominoes, enjoying the ripple effects. Or like a guy watching TV, zapping at will until a program catches his attention. Well, in a kind of world where when you choose a program you can actually give power to the protagonists. But he reacts the same way a watcher will react to a movie. The hero die at the end? You feel sad. He wins? You're happy. He will respect for Corvo should he rise above his feelings of revenge ( and even salutes him, "farwell, Corvo". He will be surprised at an unexpected outcome should Corvo not save Emily when he had been fighting for her future all along. He will almost pity Emily when she ascends the throne in the High Chaos ending.

I never thought he was a dike, in the end. The heart may be a cruel thing, but... I don't know, I felt it was also a mean for Corvo and maybe to a lesser extent Emily to still be with the late Jessamine. Indeed, Piero talks of life and soul just after when receive the heart, and it's a question that terrifies him. He doesn't know the answer though : is the soul trapped if the heart still beats? Something we won't ever know for sure.

You kidding me? in the first line of the ending he says that he had a lovely time. Here is the line

"I don't know about you corvo, but I had a lovely time. Intrigue and mystery, butchery and betrayal. The death throes of an empire!"

Here is another line

" It's just as well. The empire was dying already. Completely rotten. All that it needed was the right man, to send it over the edge."

Putting a person soul in a heart is a [censored] move in my books and using people as chess pieces is not a nice thing and the very fact that he enjoys watching the empire destroy itself says a lot about him/it. He calls the empire crumbling just and the way he is speaking in that ending to me personally it seems like he is saying the empire deserves it. Some part of me agrees since there is so much corruption with the nobles, city watch and gangs.

Even in the low chaos ending when you see the knives behind the nobles backs it seems like to me the empire will never change yes it may change for a time but it will revert back. (Man i am cynical geez.)

I just see the outsider as someone who uses people as pawns for his own entertainment/games he is looking for a good show, now I could be completely wrong but i watched all 3 endings several times and the tone of voice for the outsider in this ending is different compared to the other two. He sounds more interested/excited well this is my opinion I could be completely wrong.

As more people are saying on gamefaqs and this board the outsider wanted an unexpected outcome and this ending was it. As you said corvo was fighting for emily all this time and he just lets her die? When he is fully capable of saving her? I bet that choice blindsided the outsider cause honestly i think he was expecting the normal high chaos ending and the low chaos ending.

Yeah, you're kind of right. Somehow I had forgotten about the "lovely time" line!

Although, yeah... I still got it as, he was expecting the high chaos / good ending, and he was pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong. Just as you said, he is somehow right in believing it's best for the empire to be wiped out. heavily corrupted, rotten by plague and by scheming nobles all the same... Common folks like Samuel, Callista, Cecelia, and good people like Captain Curnow won't deserve such a fate, but the rest does.

I perfectly agree that he uses people for his own entertainment. I think he is bored, maybe he seeks to send the world into the Void quicker ( as the heart says when you acquire it, in the Void, everything will eventually went there ). But... I dunno. I can't blame him. Bored super-beings are a common theme in most stories, and they never really do things that would improve the human's way of life. Think back to the old cults, Greek gods, etc. They rarely do good deeds for humanity. In a way, I feel the Outsider is a lesser evil : at the very least, he doesn't smite!

Oh, and your sig reminds me : the Daedras from Skyrim are a good example too. Some are utterly evil, some are ... Less evil. Saying good seems farstretched, even for Azura. Let's say the Outsider is kind of a Daedra in the Dishonored universe. Yes, he got fun watching mortals and branding some pawns for his entertainment, but in the end, I do not think he has some upper motives.

Is that really "evil"? Isn't that very different from a tv show for him? Some dark tv reality show, where he probably voted for Corvo? Well maybe that's going very far, but we, as humans, who, for some anyways ( and I dare say "for a lot of people ), enjoy those tv shows and movies and especially the reality shows, aren't that different from the outsider. We are desperatly looking for something unexpected to happen.

At his 2nd shrine he said he doesn't care what happens it'll be fun to watch

I have to agree with you I don't see him as "evil" he is just a bit of an ass (I do like him btw since he kinda acts like my 3 favorite daedra princes nixed together but leaning more towards mephala the web spinner) but when reading various boards about the outsider people say nothing but good things about him.