So I have a radiant quest that tells the player, 'Go fetch book X'
So in the quest my ref alias is 'created at ' alias BookMarker
Where 'BookMarker' is an alias to the dungeon's RefType 'Boss'

This worked okay. The quest would send you to a new dungeon, and the book would often just be sitting on the ground, next to where the boss was.

The only problem was that
a) the book was just lying on the ground and not on a table or something and
the book would sometimes get placed in the floor. E.g. sometimes it would be on the 'real' floor, but there would be a 'rubblepile' or 'rockpile' right there so the book was sandwiched between these two statics and the player couldn't retrieve it without using console command 'tcl' to turn collision off

So then i tried changing the alias 'BookMarker' from the dungeon's reftype 'Boss' to the dungeon's reftype 'BossTreasureMarker'
So ideally the book would be placed at an XMarker somewhere near the boss.

I tested this, and indeed it worked, except the XMarker the book was placed at was on a table. And instead of the book being placed on the table, it was placed on the floor (with the table on top of it!) so again, you had to tcl to go inside the table an retrieve the book.

Has anyone had similiar issues with creating reference aliases at certain locations? I noticed that Bethesda doesn't seem to do this very often, they seem to prefer putting items in containers. But I really want the book lying around somewhere so the player automatically reads it when they pick it up.

Help?

Had the same issue last night/this morning creating a spell tome

If i placed a marker on an existing object ie a table, the tome was created under it. If i placed the marker on an existing object on the table, it was hit or miss as to where the tome ended up either under the table or on the floor.

Unfortunately i went with Bethesda's solution and ended up creating the tome inside a container.

It just makes me so sad that they took the time to place all these markers with ref types of 'BossTreasureMarker' and not a single quest uses them.

What a waste....