I just turn my xbox to day i just noticed how both Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isle together are about 1600 and dawnguard which is a 5-10 hour DLC is 1600 how the hell is this possible, this is a [censored] outrage!!!!!

Dawnguard is 20 hours...10 hours for each side.

NOT including side quests.

Sorry but in my opinion that is BS anyway, because if you can buy both Knights and Shivering Isles for 1600 total then we got ripped of there is no way in hell that dawnguard is bigger than either of these yet its more expensive than both

Si and KotN are both on sale on XBOX live and are both old content for a title thats no longer on sale by the publisher at retail. Skyrim is brand new content for a new title.

What did you expect? Old content gets cuts in price all the time.

This. And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't SI 3200 points when it launched, and 2400 thereafter?

Logic fail on OPs part.

EDIT: and also, I got just shy of 30 hours out of one side of DG, and I still haven't done the apparently lengthy side-quest...

That is right...they both costed a fortune compared to Dawnguard when they first came out.

Yes i know this but how can they pull this [censored] out of their ass if you compare Si or KotN to dawnguard when they were in their prime years you would still recognize that those who bought dawnguard got cheated

Yes but they were both way way way bigger than dawnguard and to me Si was more fun than dawnguard

DG is twice the size of KotN and significantly cheaper than SI on launch. I totally fail to see your point, other than you trying to jump on the dev-bashing bandwagon with a totally illogical complaint.

First both KtoN and Si were dlc that had meat in their bones but Dawnguard dont get me wrong its buggy as hell not to mention that we were suppose to have a beta so that bigs were fixed when we got this content which they werent. Second i am not bashing the Dev nor trying to jump on the bandwagon. And third i don't need your attitude i have one of my own.

Look, DG has been proven by direct comparison to be twice the size of KotN, and it's half the price SI was at launch. How on earth is this a rip-off? Your comparing arguably obsolete DLC to a brand new one!

They might be obsolete to you but there are still people who play oblivion out there and i see that you intent is not to debate is to try and be a smart ass so our discussion ends here i am not wasting my time talking to the likes of you

Well its quiet clear from your attitude that you think the DLC is not up to value. However I and many thousands of others disagree with you. Especially as both pieces of content you site as examples are like 4 years old, and on a 50% discount this week. Next week they will be 2400 and 800 again.

So you comparison is not only invalid its completely illogical.

Okay lets try this;

On release (in 2008 I believe) KotN was 1600 Points (or less) and had hardly anything on Dawnguard. A few fetch missions and some shiney new gear. Hardly worth the Money. SI was 3200 points and had lots of content (hence the cost and size). Also, remember that SI was not a DLC, but an expansion.

Now, 4 years later, the cost of both pieces of content has lowered as the amount of sales has gone down. Enter Dawnguard; a DLC (not expansion) for the current ES game Skyrim. It costs 1600 points (half that of SI) and is twice the size of KotN (wich was close to the same price and added little to the game). Dawnguard adds many quests, random encounters, a new plotline, new and massive areas, etc.

So, I do believe that Dawnguard is worth the price. And your argument regarding it costing the same as both KotN AND SI combined is completly invalid. Both pieces of content are on a 50% off sale righ now. At their normal price, they are 3200 points combined, twice that of Dawnguard.

In short, you are obviously not very good at thinking logically.

Almost all dlc is overpriced, so you're wasting your time banging your gums about it. The best way to make your feelings known is simply not to buy it. Other than that, i dunno what to say.

Wow, such bad logic on OP's part.

Oblivion GOTY with both DLCs is 20 bucks by where I live. Skyrim with no DLCs is 60. Are you "outraged" by that as well?

Ok lets try this;
How about you stop try to insult people over the forums and start a debate peacefully

In short, you are obviously not capable of debating without trying to be a smart ass

Yes i see this now thread is pointless didnt see a bit of the obvious bits here and there

This isn't a debate, this is just illogical nonsense. You may as well complain about why every single old game out there isn't still worth 60 bucks.

Also, I'd have to say that this DLC is the least bugged content that Bethesda has released in a while, from my personal experience in both the beta and the official. May I add that, as far as I know, the official retail version that everybody is playing right now is the exact same version as the beta version we had, so they haven't patched it yet.

As for your other comments about the length of the DLC, this DLC has taken me much longer to complete than KotN or SI, so I don't know what you're going on about. The best part about this DLC is it expands upon the base game, where as SI was it's own landmass (which isn't a bad thing), but it didn't feel like a part of the base game at all. I finished Dawnguard back in the beta and I'm *still* benefitting from it in the main game.

Yes well very fine your comment but i dont have time to deal with your ignorant i know it all attitude, end of our discussion i wont bother talking to ignorant people who think that by talking down to others they feel better about themselves.
In short; dont bother to reply because i wont bother to even read your comments

I wasn't talking down on you to feel better about myself. And in what way am I being ignorant in the slightest, I politely replied on your opinion on the DLC, and suddenly I am ignorant?

You've also given similar statements to anybody who dared to question your opinion/thoughts on the matter, and have pretty much called everybody in this thread who disagreed with you ignorant or various other negative words. You talk about debate, but you haven't brought one point to the table as a rebuttal to anything that anybody has said. Not one person who questioned your statements has gotten a reply from you besides them being "ignorant."

Given the state of the thread and the nature of the replies you've given thus far, I'm simply going to go get a mod and hopefully have this closed because this seems to be going nowhere besides everybody being called ignorant/smart ass/etc. :/

Closed for review.