why can i not become immortal

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:09 am

Ok Dragons are immortal, but i'm killing them and eating there souls so why can't I use these souls to become immortal my self. Why can't you become plain old immoral in this game why do you have to become a vampire to become immortal well that just svcks.

there should be more things you can use dragon souls for they should not be just for unlocking shouts,
how about using dragon souls to bring people back to life and no I don't mean in zombie fourm.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:02 am

Punctuation is your friend. Also, you may want to try to stick to one idea.

Anyway, you don't become immortal by stocking up extra souls. Generally, immortal beings (like vampires) don't have souls.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:50 am

Generally, immortal beings (like vampires) don't have souls.
Wrong universe ;) Vampires have black souls.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:42 am

vampires aren't immortal -- they can be killed and die.
Dragons aren't immortal -- they can killed and die.
Daedra are immortal -- they can be killed but can't die, only be banished to Oblivion where they are reborn.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:08 pm

OP:

Your question misses the mark on what the core of the game is about. I understand what you are asking, but in a way it makes no sense to me.

If a game was released where at some point you were granted "true immortality" it would then become utterly pointless. No challenge.

If you want to feel "immortal" in game (for RP), become a vampire. Done. :biggrin:


Edit: I will add, however, that I am intrigued by your idea of bringing dead NPC's back to life with Dragon Souls. Good call.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:33 am

vampires aren't immortal -- they can be killed and die.
Dragons aren't immortal -- they can killed and die.
Daedra are immortal -- they can be killed but can't die, only be banished to Oblivion where they are reborn.

Immortal has never meant "can't be killed". It's always meant that you'll live forever unless something else kills you. But no sickness/age-related death.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:25 am

Immortal has never meant "can't be killed". It's always meant that you'll live forever unless something else kills you. But no sickness/age-related death.

It depends on the kind of "immortality" you are talking about. The variety such as vampirism, where you don't age or die from "common" causes, or "true immortality" where you just flat-out cannot die. It sounds as if the OP is asking about the latter.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:10 am

It depends on the kind of "immortality" you are talking about. The variety such as vampirism, where you don't age or die from "common" causes, or "true immortality" where you just flat-out cannot die. It sounds as if the OP is asking about the latter.

I thought he was just asking because of the Soul Cairn penalties for non-immortals.

Because there's no other in-game indicator of immortality.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:50 pm

OP:

Your question misses the mark on what the core of the game is about. I understand what you are asking, but in a way it makes no sense to me.

If a game was released where at some point you were granted "true immortality" it would then become utterly pointless. No challenge.

If you want to feel "immortal" in game (for RP), become a vampire. Done. :biggrin:

Edit: I will add, however, that I am intrigued by your idea of bringing dead NPC's back to life with Dragon Souls. Good call.
Immortality as in god mode would break the game, however say you played an golden saint in Oblivion, you would end up in their headquarter after getting killed, kind of like the graveyard in an MMO, nice idea for the TESO.

Immortality as in un-aging you have in practice in the game,

And yes using dragon souls to resurrect npc was an good idea.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:31 am

Ok Dragons are immortal, but i'm killing them and eating there souls so why can't I use these souls to become immortal my self. Why can't you become plain old immoral in this game why do you have to become a vampire to become immortal well that just svcks.
You are as immortal as whatever you keep your saves on. It's an RPG, so you can role play that any way you want.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:32 am

Immortal doesn't mean unkillable.

Further, you have the soul of a dragon...no one says what happens to you when you die. Talos became a God, reputedly, so might become one too...but will you ever get to Sovengarde?
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:52 pm

Ok Dragons are immortal, but i'm killing them and eating there souls so why can't I use these souls to become immortal my self. Why can't you become plain old immoral in this game why do you have to become a vampire to become immortal well that just svcks.

there should be more things you can use dragon souls for they should not be just for unlocking shouts,
how about using dragon souls to bring people back to life and no I don't mean in zombie fourm.


Because if your Immortal if wrecks the game, By hp

If your immortal by age its fun

Plus it's soul means you just killed it Forever, and you spend it on Shouts
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:20 pm

Tiber Septim was Dragonborn and also quite mortal.
How he ascended into aetherius would have been a tale to hear though. :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:10 am

Well I for one kinda agree with the OP. Kinda....

I'd like to be able to use Dragon Souls for something more. Enchanting a weapon, for instance, with the soul of a dragon :D could modify a normal or mundane enchant. Say a fire enchant becomes a Fire Wall enchant! Each swing leaves behind a trail of fire! And the sword itself could constantly be burning, so unless you're wearing dragon bone gauntlets, you'll steadily take a little bit of damage. Imaging a set of Dragon Bone armor with a resist frost spell that has the armor constantly burn or smolder :D . That would be neat. :thumbsup:

Or perhaps stacking souls on an item to make something truly unreal. Useful? Perhaps not. Lore breaking? :shrug: mabye... but it would still be fun :D
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:03 am

Temporarily resurrect people, if they have the soul of a dragon they are (in essence) a temporary dovakiin. Whatever soul you use would give them that dragons' shout specialty. That would be awesome.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:11 pm

vampires aren't immortal -- they can be killed and die.
Dragons aren't immortal -- they can killed and die.
Daedra are immortal -- they can be killed but can't die, only be banished to Oblivion where they are reborn.

This sums it up the best probably.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:47 pm

OP using souls to become immortal or specifically trapping them to live forever is called lichdom.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:37 am

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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:18 pm

vampires aren't immortal -- they can be killed and die.
Dragons aren't immortal -- they can killed and die.
Daedra are immortal -- they can be killed but can't die, only be banished to Oblivion where they are reborn.

all true i consider vampires and dragons just to be ageless beings not immortals.

to me immortals are divine creatures(not exactly gods since most can be killed :tongue:) but kinda like a god only one that cant die regardless of what you do to it.

a true god to me is somthing that can will itself back into exsistance or out of whenever it likes (so basically dies and lives when it wants too lol )
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:36 pm

Um, dunno if this was pointed out or not, but dragons ARE "true" immortals, just like Daedra, in the Skyrim universe. The dragons aren't being born, they're being called back by Alduin. They WERE killed off, but, like the stereotypical (classic) staked vampire, an event can "bring them back to life" (Alduin calling them = removing the stake). NPCs, humans/elves, etc. are not immortal in Skyrim (or TES). To bring one back would require a whole lot of magical power, ritual, or "godly" intervention (if even then). As Dovahkin, you are dragon, in human form, and presumably immortal, though this is not mentioned that I recall. And yeah, that's an opening for importing the Dovahkin in future games, but probably won't happen. Remember how the last Dovahkin died (Oblivion, gave up his life to defeat Mehrunes Dagon). Possibly post Skyrim lore-fill-in would involve something like this, OR the Dovahkin is bound to the "mortal coil" that is human flesh and is mortal.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:49 pm

Um, dunno if this was pointed out or not, but dragons ARE "true" immortals, just like Daedra, in the Skyrim universe. The dragons aren't being born, they're being called back by Alduin. They WERE killed off, but, like the stereotypical (classic) staked vampire, an event can "bring them back to life" (Alduin calling them = removing the stake). NPCs, humans/elves, etc. are not immortal in Skyrim (or TES). To bring one back would require a whole lot of magical power, ritual, or "godly" intervention (if even then). As Dovahkin, you are dragon, in human form, and presumably immortal, though this is not mentioned that I recall. And yeah, that's an opening for importing the Dovahkin in future games, but probably won't happen. Remember how the last Dovahkin died (Oblivion, gave up his life to defeat Mehrunes Dagon). Possibly post Skyrim lore-fill-in would involve something like this, OR the Dovahkin is bound to the "mortal coil" that is human flesh and is mortal.

I heard rumor that dovakhin was supposed to make an appearance in the next ES game.

But i wonder if TES will continue now that theres a TES Online game.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:09 am

I heard rumor that dovakhin was supposed to make an appearance in the next ES game.

But i wonder if TES will continue now that theres a TES Online game.

I'd love to know where you heard that, since as of yet, we haven't even heard a rumor of them starting work on the next game.

And yes, there will be another Elder Scrolls game. They've repeatedly explained that ESO is being developed by a different studio and that its development will not impact the release of any new Elder Scrolls titles.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:30 am

I'd love to know where you heard that, since as of yet, we haven't even heard a rumor of them starting work on the next game.

And yes, there will be another Elder Scrolls game. They've repeatedly explained that ESO is being developed by a different studio and that its development will not impact the release of any new Elder Scrolls titles.

haha honestly I think my rumor hearing was reading around on wiki sites xD

I know not reliable but, rumors are rumors.

I think it was the trivia section of dovakhin for skyrim or something
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