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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:20 am

Of Dawnguard

I need some questions answered if anyone can do so, thanks.

1. In vanilla Skyrim you could use Restoration perks that could make your vampire stronger (e.g. Necromage), is this still the case with Vampire Lord?

2. Is Vampire Lord seperate from regular vampires? (Can I become a Vampire Lord without being a regular Vampire?)

3. By siding with the Vampire is the sun truly blocked forever? (I serously hope not)

4. Is Vampire Lord balanced? (is it underpowered? overpowered?)

I would serously appreciate these answered before I chose what side to join.
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Nicole Coucopoulos
 
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:38 am

yes from what i understand once you block out the sun the only way to reverse that is to go back to an older save before you block it out.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:57 am

You shoot the sun with a corrupted blood arrow and it lasts for 1 day, Then you have to shoot it again the next day ect.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 am

You shoot the sun with a corrupted blood arrow and it lasts for 1 day, Then you have to shoot it again the next day ect.

Can you explain this? So for the sun to be blocked all I have to do is shoot an arrow at it? And then after a day it is not blocked anymore?
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:39 am

1. I believe Necromage still works.

2. You can be transformed straight to VL by Harkon, but VL have the same abilities as Thin-Bloods (regular vampires) in human mode.

3. Nope, you get special arrows that you shoot at the sun to make it be block for about a day.

4. Overpowered, unless you are with Serana, where your Drain Life is spell is glitched to only 2 damage per sec.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:57 am

edit ^^^^^^ thanks
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:11 am

ask away
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:11 am

I've moved your thread to the spoilers section.

Do not post spoilers in the Dawnguard General Discussion forum.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:33 pm

Can you explain this? So for the sun to be blocked all I have to do is shoot an arrow at it? And then after a day it is not blocked anymore?

Unfortunatelly, no.. We should be able to shoot an arrow to the sun to block it and another to make it normal again whenever we wanted to..
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:22 am

1. Vampire lord is a transformation option for vampires and all abilities are separate so you can only use a few special spells that the vampire lord uses.

2.No.

3.No you get the ability to shoot a special arrow at it and will block it for a day.

4. A little overpowered but also 'clunky' to use slightly. If you are in daylight your magika, stamina and health do not recover although health can still be restored through the spell you can use. Also you can get stuck in some places due to being to tall but this is rare.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:51 am

Can you explain this? So for the sun to be blocked all I have to do is shoot an arrow at it? And then after a day it is not blocked anymore?
Also, its worth noting this does NOT make it have nighttime level of lighting. Its simply turns the sun into a swirling, red vortex with a large red hole in the center and makes the lighting have a slight red tinge and darkens it slightly. Also, all water turns crimson. Like blood.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:47 am

Of Dawnguard

I need some questions answered if anyone can do so, thanks.

1. In vanilla Skyrim you could use Restoration perks that could make your vampire stronger (e.g. Necromage), is this still the case with Vampire Lord?

2. Is Vampire Lord seperate from regular vampires? (Can I become a Vampire Lord without being a regular Vampire?)

3. By siding with the Vampire is the sun truly blocked forever? (I serously hope not)

4. Is Vampire Lord balanced? (is it underpowered? overpowered?)

I would serously appreciate these answered before I chose what side to join.

1) Yes, the Necromage Perk still has the same effect on your Vampire that it always did.

2) Yes, the Vampire Lord is separate. You can visit Harkon in Castle Volkihar without ever even seeing a vampire first.

3) No, the sun isn't blocked forever. It's just dimmed for 12 hour sets.

4) The Vampire Lord is very balanced. It's very very powerful, but it's balanced when you take into account of what Vampires are supposed to be. They're the undead Masters of Death and the Night, and they flat out own Mortals all across Skyrim. Generally.

They are balanced with the Werewolf (whose Perk tree actually makes them viable to play now...), and with the powers and abilities that Bethesda has given to them, it actually feels like you're a real vampire now. Like your character actually has power.

I love the Vampire Lord. I've been playing vampires solidly since Daggerfall, and I love them more now than I ever have.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:39 am

I also got a question: is it possible to walk up to Falion and still get de-vamped as a vampire lord?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:52 pm

I also got a question: is it possible to walk up to Falion and still get de-vamped as a vampire lord?
Yes, you go through the normal process as if you were a "normal" vampire. Just becareful if you want to be a VL in the future, because if you've cured Serana and killed Harkon, than you cant ever be a VL again as their the only ones who can make you a VL.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:05 am

Yes, you go through the normal process as if you were a "normal" vampire. Just becareful if you want to be a VL in the future, because if you've cured Serana and killed Harkon, than you cant ever be a VL again as their the only ones who can make you a VL.
Uhm..sorry to break it to you bud but you can't cure Serena.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:40 pm

Uhm..sorry to break it to you bud but you can't cure Serena.


Yes, you can. There are posts on it. However the option can get "bugged", so it won't come up again
(evidently if you irritate her by asking too much, at the wrong time.)
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:52 am

This should answer your sun blocking question:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1388538-blocking-out-the-sun/page__pid__21095953__st__60#entry21095953
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:53 pm

1. I believe Necromage still works.

2. You can be transformed straight to VL by Harkon, but VL have the same abilities as Thin-Bloods (regular vampires) in human mode.

3. Nope, you get special arrows that you shoot at the sun to make it be block for about a day.

4. Overpowered, unless you are with Serana, where your Drain Life is spell is glitched to only 2 damage per sec.

People keep saying this and I'm starting to get frustrated by this response. If you don't know, don't answer. "Thin-bloods," regular vampires, whatever take 25, 50, 75, anf 100% weakness to fire at each stage of vampirism. For a VL those numbers are reduced to 20, 30, 40, and 50%. This is a huge difference in terms of manageability of a vampire. Also, NPC's do not become hostile when you are a stage 4 vampire. ALSO, I believe that there is a change in the amount your stats(health, stamina, magic) are affected when out in the sun but I have not yet confirmed this.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:13 pm

Of Dawnguard

I need some questions answered if anyone can do so, thanks.

1. In vanilla Skyrim you could use Restoration perks that could make your vampire stronger (e.g. Necromage), is this still the case with Vampire Lord?

2. Is Vampire Lord seperate from regular vampires? (Can I become a Vampire Lord without being a regular Vampire?)

3. By siding with the Vampire is the sun truly blocked forever? (I serously hope not)

4. Is Vampire Lord balanced? (is it underpowered? overpowered?)

I would serously appreciate these answered before I chose what side to join.

1. Vamp Lord does not use any of the magic schools in the Skills section, they use "Night Powers" or "Blood Magic", both can be upgraded in their special perk tree that has seperate perks to the Skills tree.

2. I wasn't a Vampire and still joined, there are no phases, just Bam! And you're a Vamp Lord.

3. No. Without spoilers I can say this is only an addition, and you NEVER have to do it, even if you do, it's only for 24hrs.

4. Overpowered in my opinion, even with no perks, claws deal as much damage as Werewolf, and the blood magic is far too powerful.
During the day, you don't become "weaker" as the game suggests, it only slows your regeneration so you end up using regular attacks instead of power attacks.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:37 pm

Uhm..sorry to break it to you bud but you can't cure Serena.
Sorry to break it to you bud but you can cure her. If you ask her at the beginning of the DLC where you first met her then you can't. The dialog will never appear again for you to ask her. If you wait tell you complete the main quest then ask her and she'll let you cure her.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:50 pm

1. Vamp Lord does not use any of the magic schools in the Skills section, they use "Night Powers" or "Blood Magic", both can be upgraded in their special perk tree that has seperate perks to the Skills tree.

2. I wasn't a Vampire and still joined, there are no phases, just Bam! And you're a Vamp Lord.

3. No. Without spoilers I can say this is only an addition, and you NEVER have to do it, even if you do, it's only for 24hrs.

4. Overpowered in my opinion, even with no perks, claws deal as much damage as Werewolf, and the blood magic is far too powerful.
During the day, you don't become "weaker" as the game suggests, it only slows your regeneration so you end up using regular attacks instead of power attacks.

Claws dont deal nearly as much damage as werewolf fully upgraded.
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:31 am

Claws dont deal nearly as much damage as werewolf fully upgraded.

No, but the Poison Claws Perk makes the love linger... ;)
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:00 am

No, but the Poison Claws Perk makes the love linger... :wink:
Acually all you need is grip and Lycans cant stand against the VL
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Post » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:32 am

yes from what i understand once you block out the sun the only way to reverse that is to go back to an older save before you block it out.
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