I was hoping it would be easy in the CK, just set the race to Nord male and set the skin to child then i could put on facial hair. but no, so if you guys and gals could just point me in right direction. I think maybe I will need nifskope or something and actually create facial hair for one of the choices, or move it into the area of children facial proprieties. or I don't know. any help would be appreciated. thanks.