Lore Question about Bosmer

Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:05 am

ok so my knowlege of TES lore is pretty much limited to Skyrim, i played Oblivion but never really got into the lore until Skyrim. ok so my question is what is the overall relationship bewtween the Bosmer and Altmer at this point of the story? i ask because my latest character is a Bosmer and imagine her as hating the Thalmor and high elven oppression. This was drawn from my encounter on another character with Melborn in the MQ and how Delphine mention's something about him hating the thalmor because his family was killed in one of the "purges we dont hear about." since this character's backstory is somewhat similar i just wanted to know some of the finer details of their relationship since ive seen a few people on the forums talking about how the Altmer and Bosmer are allies. plus my treatment from a few of Skyrim's citizens leads me to believe that they pretty much feel the same way. thanks in advance for any replies and feel free to drop in some links to point me in the right direction of the answers i seek!
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:37 am

The Bosmer and Altmer came together to create the Aldmeri Dominion. They're basically the Altmer's best friends.

This information came from (I believe) Ancano from the Mages Guild. He's acting all high and mighty and boasts about the alliance and how Men are inferior.

Y'know, typical High Elf.
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:18 am

That's funny because today I made a Bosmer and learned that they were cannibals. Sorry I can't answer your question ):
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:26 am

That's funny because today I made a Bosmer and learned that they were cannibals. Sorry I can't answer your question ):
That's... Interesting :P

Where'd you learn that?
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:15 am

They are "allies", however, most of the ones we meet don't want to be.
Also, yes, Bosmer are cannibals! It's part of the Green Pact they can't consume any of the vegetation of Vardenfell.
So, they eat a lot of meat, but I've never heard of them just killing each other for food, just the deceased I suppose.

The Bosmer of Skyrim are not cannibals, since the vegetation is not of Vardenfell.
Hope I was able to help! There is also a lore section of the forums if you're interested. ;)
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:13 pm

Delphine is a Breton, her family was purged because they aren't elves. Bosmer are the closest thing to Altmer left so they're probably good friends, why would the Bosmer prefer a Mannish Empire over an Elvish Dominion? :P They're definitely cannibals too, look them up, they've some weird traditions :)
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:27 am

Delphine is a Breton, her family was purged because they aren't elves. Bosmer are the closest thing to Altmer left so they're probably good friends, why would the Bosmer prefer a Mannish Empire over an Elvish Dominion? :tongue: They're definitely cannibals too, look them up, they've some weird traditions :smile:

Yeah, like purging the Orsimer every so often.... -_-
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:46 am

That's funny because today I made a Bosmer and learned that they were cannibals. Sorry I can't answer your question ):

There cannibals because they consume there dead enemies after a battle.This is why they are reluctant to go to war in the first place.
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:51 am

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Great_War_(book). Read it.

"In 4E 29, the government of Valenwood was overthrown by Thalmor collaborators and a union with Alinor proclaimed. It appears that Thalmor agents had formed close ties to certain Bosmeri factions even before the Oblivion Crisis. The Empire and its Bosmer allies, caught completely off guard, were quickly defeated by the much-better prepared Altmer forces that invaded Valenwood on the heels of the coup. Thus was the Aldmeri Dominion reborn."

They are allies, but forced allies. Valenwood didn't join the Aldmeri Dominion, it was conquered - with help from within. What's more important, Altmer =/= Thalmor. Thalmor are a minority who seized power and by clever manipulation managed to create quite a bit of strife in Tamriel. Their annexation of Elsweyr was very well executed, reminds me of the way priests in ancient Egypt used their knowledge about solar eclipse to earn respect of the people.

Bosmer are a fascinating nation. Earlier in history they were betrayed both by the Empire and by their own Altmeri brethren, so they tend to keep to themselves and usually don't engage in wars with other nations unless they're provoked. That said, as all elves Bosmer would probably be more likely to stand with the Almer than with the human Empire.

However, both withing Summerset Isles and the forests of Valenwood you can find many people who disagree with the Thalmor and condemn them for usurping the power and dragging their homeland into a war. If you listened to Malborn, and you say you did, then you certainly know that all who oppose the Thalmor - be they Imperials, Nords, Bosmer or Altmer - are severely punished. We heard about purges in Valenwood and there's no reason to doubt the reliability of these rumours because it's certain that when the Thalmor's army marched into Valenwood, many Bosmer fought against them and kept opposing them even after the battle was over.

On the other hand, some will see the rebirth of the Aldmeri Dominion as a glorious success. What your character believes - that you have to decide on your own.
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:29 pm

there's a lore section ;)
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:50 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Great_War_(book). Read it.

"In 4E 29, the government of Valenwood was overthrown by Thalmor collaborators and a union with Alinor proclaimed. It appears that Thalmor agents had formed close ties to certain Bosmeri factions even before the Oblivion Crisis. The Empire and its Bosmer allies, caught completely off guard, were quickly defeated by the much-better prepared Altmer forces that invaded Valenwood on the heels of the coup. Thus was the Aldmeri Dominion reborn."

They are allies, but forced allies. Valenwood didn't join the Aldmeri Dominion, it was conquered - with help from within. What's more important, Altmer =/= Thalmor. Thalmor are a minority who seized power and by clever manipulation managed to create quite a bit of strife in Tamriel. Their annexation of Elsweyr was very well executed, reminds me of the way priests in ancient Egypt used their knowledge about solar eclipse to earn respect of the people.

Bosmer are a fascinating nation. Earlier in history they were betrayed both by the Empire and by their own Altmeri brethren, so they tend to keep to themselves and usually don't engage in wars with other nations unless they're provoked. That said, as all elves Bosmer would probably be more likely to stand with the Almer than with the human Empire.

However, both withing Summerset Isles and the forests of Valenwood you can find many people who disagree with the Thalmor and condemn them for usurping the power and dragging their homeland into a war. If you listened to Malborn, and you say you did, then you certainly know that all who oppose the Thalmor - be they Imperials, Nords, Bosmer or Altmer - are severely punished. We heard about purges in Valenwood and there's no reason to doubt the reliability of these rumours because it's certain that when the Thalmor's army marched into Valenwood, many Bosmer fought against them and kept opposing them even after the battle was over.

On the other hand, some will the rebirth of the Aldmeri Dominion as a glorious success. What your character believes - that you have to decide on your own.

exactly the answer i was looking for thank you! as for where my character stands i think she will continue to hate the thalmor and their oppressive ways


there's a lore section :wink:

haha ya i found it, i just have the skyrim subforums bookmarked so i never see the other sections lol if a mod wants to move the thread it would probably be more appropriate there
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:04 pm

They are "allies", however, most of the ones we meet don't want to be.
Also, yes, Bosmer are cannibals! It's part of the Green Pact they can't consume any of the vegetation of Vardenfell.
So, they eat a lot of meat, but I've never heard of them just killing each other for food, just the deceased I suppose.

The Bosmer of Skyrim are not cannibals, since the vegetation is not of Vardenfell.
Hope I was able to help! There is also a lore section of the forums if you're interested. :wink:
Valenwood, not Vardenfell my friend :wink:
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Post » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:48 pm

Valenwood, not Vardenfell my friend :wink:

Oops. xD
I don't even know where I got Vardenfell. HAHA!
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:55 am

Their cannabilistic nature is interesting to me. The way different species interact with each other in TES is one thing that I like about this series. The species are wary of each other, but are more comfortable around the ones that are most like them. Racism is a real thing, and in TES there is no exception. Dunmer? They hate anyone other than the Dark elves. Bosmer? Cannibals - are outcast by many races of men. Orsimer? Outcast by almost all due to their appearance. Altmer? I don't even need to say. Imperials? Control the entire continent, base their entire Empire on merchantilism. Nords? Everyone on here complains about this, I have no need to rehash it. Redguards? There are many situations where they show no respect for any other race, and view their immediate goals as more important than other's. Bretons? Just go to the Reach for 10 minutes and you will see. Argonians? They can coexist with other races, but they do not do so well. They hate the Khajiit with a passion. Khajiit? They are similar to the Argonians in the ability to coexist, but hate the lizards.
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Post » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:53 am

The Aldmeri Dominion staged a coup in Valenwood, effectively aligning the Bosmeri folk with the Thalmor.

However, there are many Bosmer who are far from happy about this arrangement. "Best friends" is probably a stretch and a half.
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