Miraak's motives?

Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:54 pm

Can someone give me a basic summary of what the first dragonborn intends to do in Solstheim?
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The Time Car
 
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:29 pm

Brainwash everyone and generally be a bad person.
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Nicole Elocin
 
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:20 pm

Brainwash everyone and generally be a bad person.

Good to see Bethesda can still write.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:27 pm

Good to see Bethesda can still write.

mmhmm
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Sharra Llenos
 
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:09 pm

Brainwash everyone and generally be a bad person.
There must be more to it than that. Have you completed it or are you just assuming?
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:16 pm



Good to see Bethesda can still write.

LOL is it interesting though?
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:59 pm

Good to see Bethesda can still write.

:lmao:

Well, they met my expectations; evil because evil who wants to destroy the world because he's evil because evil :hehe:
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:29 am

Ol Hermy is the best part to me and is obviously manipulating things. Miraak seems very shallow. Maybe that is the point.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:55 am

:lmao:

Well, they met my expectations; evil because evil who wants to destroy the world because he's evil because evil :hehe:


Yeah ironically Bethesda is so bad at writing that it's like impossible to disappoint us on the writing front, since we expect absolute [censored] from the get-go.
Their weakness is becoming a strength when it comes to combating the disappointment front. :tongue:


On topic, I've only seen a couple let's play vids, but the dude is, at the very least, mind-controlling people into building a giant friggin' temple in his honor.
So yeah, I don't care if he's got the best motivations in the world for doing whatever the hell he's doing. Mindcontrolling people into building a temple for you as your FIRST act of business when returning to the world = comic levels of stupid evil.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:17 am

Ol Hermy is the best part to me and is obviously manipulating things. Miraak seems very shallow. Maybe that is the point.
So I take it that you have not completed it yet? (At least that's what lack of past tense tells me.) Also, how is Miraak shallow? From what I've seen in the Let's Plays he only says like one-liners.

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So yeah, I don't care if he's got the best motivations in the world for doing whatever the hell he's doing.
That's a little bit harsh, don't you think? I mean, wanting to rain nukes on the NCR was pretty much comic levels of stupid evil, as well, but the motivation made it interesting. How do you know something like this won't be the case for Miraak?
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:43 pm

Funny, I thought they tried to do the "Ulysses-Courier" relationship with Miraak-Dovahkiin.

It's kind of embarassing really, especially since they have to resort to retconning Alessia and the established lore in general, as well as ripping off Morrowind again (more straightforward that Shivering Isles) in order to make things do with their new content.

I want and will play it, but I don't have a good feeling about this DLC.

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I mean, wanting to rain nukes on the NCR was pretty much comic levels of stupid evil, as well, but the motivation made it interesting. How do you know something like this won't be the case for Miraak?


Because Obsidian has more talented writers than Bethesda. Maybe except for Kirkbride, but the guy was basically out after Morrowind.

And even if they are creative with their writing, it shows mainly in lore and books - conversations never were the forte of TES, and dialogue battles like Lonesome Road or Deus Ex HR that are necessary for it are simply not happening.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:56 am

It's kind of embarassing really, especially since they have to resort to retconning Alessia and the established lore in general
It's not retconning really. Alessia was only the first known dragonborn and with some of the new lore it can be seen that you can be dragonborn in more than one way. It makes sense that the imperials would not know about Miraak, he is rather ancient history.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:14 am

It's kind of embarassing really, especially since they have to resort to retconning Alessia and the established lore in general, as well as ripping off Morrowind again (more straightforward that Shivering Isles) in order to make things do with their new content.

That was all done in vanilla Skyrim already, you just had to connect lore dots.
A lot of things in Skyrim (like Akatosh not being invented by her, 8 totem gods, etc.) actually challenged the plausibility of Alessian historian.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:42 pm

Can someone give me a basic summary of what the first dragonborn intends to do in Solstheim?

Draconic nature = domination

Miraak's motives = domination

nuff said
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:08 pm

That's a little bit harsh, don't you think? I mean, wanting to rain nukes on the NCR was pretty much comic levels of stupid evil, as well, but the motivation made it interesting. How do you know something like this won't be the case for Miraak?

Not really.

Nuking both was kind of the argument of "If we don't do it, then new nations with new ideas will never be allowed to grow."
With Miraak, what I mean is:

1) How is a temple dedicated to the worship of you in any way practical? What does this even accomplish?

2) Honestly, say I offered right now to build a temple in your honor and worship you. Would you want me to? I know I wouldn't because wtf that's so stupid, trivial and downright childish to actually want such a thing. And yet the main antagonist supposedly wants this. :tongue:
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 am

I don't know about yall, but I'm irritated at being called a false dragonborn and can't wait to get this on PC, so I can beat his ass.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:16 pm

Nuking both was kind of the argument of "If we don't do it, then new nations with new ideas will never be allowed to grow."
With Miraak, what I mean is:
Yes, but if you just strip down the idea of nuking the NCR, it's stupid evil. It's not practical at all. That's what we see from Dragonborn right now: stripped down ideas. What if he's building a temple to be worshipped so he draws away followers from other gods that seek to do harm (HM comes to mind)? In a fantasy setting that's pretty logical.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:01 am

Just a side note, he is also a kill stealer. Totally teleported out of nowhere and stole a dragon soul from me right as I finished the dragon off.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:57 pm

Seriously? We are bringing up FO topics into this and slamming it already?
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 pm

@http://www.gamesas.com/user/693871-mjfjd/Oh..HELL no.. yes yes he's SO dead when I get the game.
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