Mages are clearly superior to warriors

Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:06 pm

Why?

1- When you make a pure mage character(magic schools + enchanting) your character becomes highly overpowered, but when you make a pure warrior(combat schools + smithing) your character is still pure sh** on Master and the most cretin dragon can kill you with a couple of bites or a single shout. You would need potions of resistance/health to do that, which would break the concept of a pure warrior.

2- Every dragon priest became a dragon priest due to their magical abilities.

2- All the most powerful and hard to kill NPCs are mages. I can beat a pack of 50 warriors with a mage, the same can never be done with a warrior, or agaist 50 wizzards as they all one-hit you.

3- The dominant races of Tamriel are natural mages, such as the Altmer and the Dunmer.

So truth be told, mages are clearly superior to warriors.
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Sara Johanna Scenariste
 
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:02 am

Well I guess I'm in for it since I created my first true mage today. Everyone else before him has been a melee warrior.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:44 pm

1- Destruction doesn't scale. Wrong about Warriors against Dragons.

2- And they die just as easily.

3- My Absorbing-Resistant (No Enchants) Breton would like a word with these mages.

4-Altmer and Dunmer, the most arrogant races on Tamriel.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:09 am

1- Destruction doesn't scale. Wrong about Warriors against Dragons.

2- And they die just as easily.

3- My Absorbing-Resistant (No Enchants) Breton would like a word with these mages.

4-Altmer and Dunmer, the most arrogant races on Tamriel.

And then there's Spellbreaker, Ysgramor's shield and the Solitude shield for extra magic resistance!!
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:27 am

Who's to say that a pure warrior can't incorporate enchanting? With The Lord stone+resist magic enchants, mages are rendered on to the threat lvl of a Mud crab. As a Necromage vampire-warrior Magic used against you can become a non-factor.

So I say warriors>Mages
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 am

I'm going to have to disagree and show some love to the warriors. At the point I'm at in the game there are very few creatures or people that can pose a serious threat to me.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:38 pm

So if you had a Breton, with The Lord stone, blessing of Mara, and Spellbreaker,you would be practically invincible to magic!
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:05 am

So if you had a Breton, with The Lord stone, blessing of Mara, and Spellbreaker,you would be practically invincible to magic!
My Breton has:
25% natural resistance
30% Alteration magic resistance
15% Agent of Mara
12% Ring of Waning Magic (Also magic resistance)

82% magic resistance!

And I still have the Atronach Stone and the Atronach Perk, abosrbing 80% of spells.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:02 pm

My current warrior destroys all the enemies you mentioned. On my warrior I never have to sneak, never have to hide, never have to run, never have to fear anything. He just walks in and crushes heads with his mace and laughs as the bodies fall. Mages drop in his wake like chickens in a slaughterhouse. Whatever you're doing with your warriors you're doing it wrong. Warriors decimate everything with ease.

That said my mage isn't half bad either.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:23 pm

My first mage was a Dunmer Nerevarine on Morrowind, I only had pure warriors/thieves on Skyrim until a month ago when I made my first pure mage build.

1- Destruction dual casting + stagger + enchanted cost reduction clothes and you can kill a legendary dragon just by standing and casting. Good luck trying that with a pure warrior.

2- The dragonhide spell + mage armor perks allows you to resist a good amount of damage, the same can't be said about a pure warrior who has only smithing skills.

3- Bretons + a motherload of magic resistant equipment can indeed become practically invincible to magic, but as a pure warrior you could only apply on smithing skills, so your armor would still be crap against blows and you would still deal a very small amount of damage(specially when you can't double improve your weapon, such as the Dawnbreaker).

4- The Alter and Dunmer are arrogant because they know they're superior to those barbarian savages lacking intellect.

Playing as a pure mage on Master is times much easier than a pure warrior, everybody who tried both builds knows that for sure. And when I say pure warriors I mean pure, no magical skills or stealth skills(and that does includes enchanting/alchemy)
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:41 pm

Magic resistance! Your fancy spells can't touch my warrior. :banana:
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:11 pm

you been drinking, smoking or snorting something? ha first you have two #2's and then you mix a bit of lore with some gameplay mechanics and blend it into pure crap.

Lore- tiber septim wasn't a mage but conquered all of tamriel.
-your supreme mage Aldmieri dominion was fought to a stalemate by the Redguard warriors of Hammerfell
I could keep going on lore...

mechanics- you can smith any weapon to be a 1 hit kill on every opponent, destruction magics max attack power is a dual incinerate spell with proper perks and only does a 200 damage iirc

heavily armored warriors can stand there and be bitten all day by a dragon while a robe wearing mage would get chewed up and tossed.

and so on...

warrior>mage
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:36 am

Looks like you guys have shot The Robot's theory full of holes.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:36 pm

Nah, they may be nearly immune to spells but still not 100%, without potions a pure warrior would get knocked down by Frost Atronachs + spells in minutes.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:12 pm

Looks like you guys have shot The Robot's theory full of holes.
I think we can make a few more holes.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:41 am

My first mage was a Dunmer Nerevarine on Morrowind, I only had pure warriors/thieves on Skyrim until a month ago when I made my first pure mage build.

1- Destruction dual casting + stagger + enchanted cost reduction clothes and you can kill a legendary dragon just by standing and casting. Good luck trying that with a pure warrior.

A warrior with a shield, Dragonrend, and some Vegetable Soup will give same result.

2- The dragonhide spell + mage armor perks allows you to resist a good amount of damage, the same can't be said about a pure warrior who has only smithing skills.

Odds are, a warrior can reach the armor cap before a mage can get Alteration to 100.
3- Bretons + a motherload of magic resistant equipment can indeed become practically invincible to magic, but as a pure warrior you could only apply on smithing skills, so your armor would still be crap against blows and you would still deal a very small amount of damage(specially when you can't double improve your weapon, such as the Dawnbreaker).
Run up while dodging their spells and slaughter them. Ice Storm can be a bit tricky. Atronach or Lord Stone is very useful.

4- The Alter and Dunmer are arrogant because they know they're superior to those barbarian savages lacking intellect.
Lore wise, haven't they both been beaten by humans?

Playing as a pure mage on Master is times much easier than a pure warrior, everybody who tried both builds knows that for sure. And when I say pure warriors I mean pure, no magical skills or stealth skills(and that does includes enchanting/alchemy)
Actually, I think a pure warrior fares far better than a mage does.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:30 pm

The dominant races of Tamriel are natural mages, such as the Altmer and the Dunmer.

Said by the snow elves when the Nede conquered their lands and drove them to near extinction, also said by Thalmor after the Redguards handed them their asses.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:10 pm


I think we can make a few more holes.

Man!! He's gonna need a potion of ultimate healing or maybe a fellow mage to reanimate his corpse.
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Post » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:36 pm

Why?

1- When you make a pure mage character(magic schools + enchanting) your character becomes highly overpowered, but when you make a pure warrior(combat schools + smithing) your character is still pure sh** on Master and the most cretin dragon can kill you with a couple of bites or a single shout. You would need potions of resistance/health to do that, which would break the concept of a pure warrior.

2- Every dragon priest became a dragon priest due to their magical abilities.

2- All the most powerful and hard to kill NPCs are mages. I can beat a pack of 50 warriors with a mage, the same can never be done with a warrior, or agaist 50 wizzards as they all one-hit you.

3- The dominant races of Tamriel are natural mages, such as the Altmer and the Dunmer.

So truth be told, mages are clearly superior to warriors.

Maybe you just svck at playing a warrior? I find I have to gimp my warriors or they are still OP on master.
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