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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:51 pm
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Keeley Stevens - Posts: 3398
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:53 pm
Help a brother out.
LOL
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rolanda h - Posts: 3314
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» Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:06 am
Oh, you better be prepared for LOOOONG explanations from those very knowledgable with the lore. 
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FABIAN RUIZ - Posts: 3495
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:33 pm
Brace yourself... Lore fanatics are coming to smite you...
My body is ready.
LOL
Are you unable to answer the question?
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Bethany Watkin - Posts: 3445
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:57 pm
Oh, you better be prepared for LOOOONG explanations from those very knowledgable with the lore.
Sam Adams will settle for the Readers Digest version as well...
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Anna Krzyzanowska - Posts: 3330
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» Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:15 am
Achieving CHIM is to realise what the world is and understand Mundus without losing your mind. The thing is, the whole world is actually not real and only the dream of a being called the God Head. When you understand that you are one, while at the same time you're all and at the same time you're nothing, and you're able to break out of the dream, while still keeping your sense of individuality, is when you achieve CHIM.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
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matt oneil - Posts: 3383
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:49 pm
Rather than trying to explain it in my own words; I think this quotes it perfectly:
"CHIM is a state of being that exists above pretty much everything.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit."
http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=31987
"CHIM is a state of being that exists above pretty much everything.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit."
http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=31987
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Steve Smith - Posts: 3540
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:30 pm
Achieving CHIM is to realise what the world is and understand Mundus without losing your mind. The thing is, the whole world is actually not real and only the dream of a being called the God Head. When you understand that you are one, while at the same time you're all and at the same time you're nothing, and you're able to break out of the dream, while still keeping your sense of individuality, is when you achieve CHIM.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
Where do these God Head's live? Are there multiple?
Or is this just some psycho-explanation for the Elder Scrolls being video games and stuff.
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Stefanny Cardona - Posts: 3352
- Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:08 pm
» Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:50 am
Achieving CHIM is to realise what the world is and understand Mundus without losing your mind. The thing is, the whole world is actually not real and only the dream of a being called the God Head. When you understand that you are one, while at the same time you're all and at the same time you're nothing, and you're able to break out of the dream, while still keeping your sense of individuality, is when you achieve CHIM.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
I've been trying to understand what it actually means for months.
And Don't say crap about anything Lore related.
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Loane - Posts: 3411
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» Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:56 am
Don't worry, I was there, too.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/personal-question-about-chim
In a nutshell, it was supposed to give a lore-based explanation for things like modding Morrowind.
You have god-powers to make things like that happen. Like mods.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/personal-question-about-chim
CHIM is a state of being that exists above pretty much everything.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit.
In a nutshell, it was supposed to give a lore-based explanation for things like modding Morrowind.
You have god-powers to make things like that happen. Like mods.
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Smokey - Posts: 3378
- Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 11:35 pm
» Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:08 pm
The basis for the teachings of the Prophet Veloth, founder of present day Morrowind and father of Dunmeri culture. Veloth describes the Psijic Endeavor as a process of glorious apotheosis, where time itself is bent inward and outward into 'a shape that is always new'. Those who can attain this state, called chim, experience an ineffable sense of the godhead, and escape the strictures of the world-egg.
It should be noted that, while Veloth is given credit for establishing the anti-laws that govern the Endeavor, this process has its antecedents in the teachings of the Black Hands Mephala, Boethiah, Azura, Trinimac, and, of course, Lorkhan, through that lord's association with PSJJJJ.
What is "chim"?
From the Ehlnofex: an ancient sigil connoting 'royalty', 'starlight', and 'high splendor'. As with most characters of that dangerous language, the sigil CHIM constantly distorts itself. Those scholars that can perceive its shape regard it as a Crowned Tower that threatens to break apart at the slightest break in concentration.
Representations of the chim, and by extension the Psijic Endeavor, are always protean values, such as the anumidi models renowned by the Dwemer, the Scarab of contemporary astrolothurges, and the Striking ("exact egg-cracking") of old Argonia. All of these representations possess an innate and constant aspect of transformation.
What is the purpose of the Psijic Endeavor?
To transcend mortal boundaries set in place by immortal rulers. At its simplest, the state of chim provides an escape from all known laws of the divine worlds and the corruptions of the black sea of Oblivion. It is a return to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, where stasis and change created possibility. Moreso, it the essence needed to hold that 'dawning' together without disaster. One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within.
I am confused. What is the relationship of the Psijic Endeavor and the Tower?
Ah. Because from within one, you may regard the other.
That helps little. What examples of the Psijic Endeavor exist today?
The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at chim. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.
Wait. Why would anyone want to purposely fail the process of CHIM?
And this is the most-reached destination of all that embark upon this road. Why would Lorkhan and his (unwitting?) agents sabotage their experiments with the Tower? Why would he crumble that which he esteems?
Perhaps he failed so you might know how not to.
It should be noted that, while Veloth is given credit for establishing the anti-laws that govern the Endeavor, this process has its antecedents in the teachings of the Black Hands Mephala, Boethiah, Azura, Trinimac, and, of course, Lorkhan, through that lord's association with PSJJJJ.
What is "chim"?
From the Ehlnofex: an ancient sigil connoting 'royalty', 'starlight', and 'high splendor'. As with most characters of that dangerous language, the sigil CHIM constantly distorts itself. Those scholars that can perceive its shape regard it as a Crowned Tower that threatens to break apart at the slightest break in concentration.
Representations of the chim, and by extension the Psijic Endeavor, are always protean values, such as the anumidi models renowned by the Dwemer, the Scarab of contemporary astrolothurges, and the Striking ("exact egg-cracking") of old Argonia. All of these representations possess an innate and constant aspect of transformation.
What is the purpose of the Psijic Endeavor?
To transcend mortal boundaries set in place by immortal rulers. At its simplest, the state of chim provides an escape from all known laws of the divine worlds and the corruptions of the black sea of Oblivion. It is a return to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, where stasis and change created possibility. Moreso, it the essence needed to hold that 'dawning' together without disaster. One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within.
I am confused. What is the relationship of the Psijic Endeavor and the Tower?
Ah. Because from within one, you may regard the other.
That helps little. What examples of the Psijic Endeavor exist today?
The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at chim. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.
Wait. Why would anyone want to purposely fail the process of CHIM?
And this is the most-reached destination of all that embark upon this road. Why would Lorkhan and his (unwitting?) agents sabotage their experiments with the Tower? Why would he crumble that which he esteems?
Perhaps he failed so you might know how not to.
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amhain - Posts: 3506
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» Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:30 am
Where do these God Head's live? Are there multiple?
Or is this just some psycho-explanation for the Elder Scrolls being video games and stuff.
Or is this just some psycho-explanation for the Elder Scrolls being video games and stuff.
The God Head is everything. And yes, it's quite psycho.
Or, as Ardatlil said above, it's to gain access to the CK.
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Alyna - Posts: 3412
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» Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:24 pm
Rather than trying to explain it in my own words; I think this quotes it perfectly:
"CHIM is a state of being that exists above pretty much everything.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit."
http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=31987
"CHIM is a state of being that exists above pretty much everything.
It is obtained when one realizes that everything is the dream of the godhead, and thus the realization that everything is connected to everything else via the dream, and thus nothing is by itself, or an individual.
After realizing that you are everything, and everything is you, via the dream of the godhead, one then stands up and proclaims I AM, that you are still who you are, an individual, despite the realization that you aren't anything.
When one finds CHIM they can alter the world to their pleasing, they can bring themselves back to life after death, and they, in simple terms, gain access to the construction kit."
http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=31987
ROFL that quote had me going till the end.
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Philip Lyon - Posts: 3297
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» Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:44 am
Basically, CHIM is... TES inception. 
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Hella Beast - Posts: 3434
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