Now people, this discovery is seriously going to blow your mind. From the great game series The Elder Scrolls, I have played for not very long now (I got it around November 2012) and have realized many interesting things about it, but after I discovered this, it completely blew my mind away! I honestly must say I have only played The Elder Scrolls V and IV (Oblivion and Skyrim). I am sure most of you are aware of the giant statue that now lies in the center of the empire, if not, it is a giant statue of Martin Septim after saving the world by lighting the Dragonfires.

This is my first post, so do not expect any of the fancy stuff you see on here. I mainly signed up on here to post this, for this is an amazing discovery!

(When I can I will put the pictures on here. For now I will have to wait until I am given permission, sorry I couldn't put them on yet, but I will!)

Martin Septim's Statue that now houses in the former Temple of the One [1]. --Pay no attention to the statements with [#] at the end. Those were originally supposed to be pictures, but then I figured out I could not post them, and I was just to lazy to erase them, so instead I wrote this... For some reason unknown.

Now, many of you may or may not know, that Martin Septim saved the world by sacrificing himself during The Oblivion Crisis. Martin Septim is an Imperial male, young age, and (was) heir to the Royal Throne.

Martin Septim. Imperial, Male, and (was) heir to the Royal Throne. Also is a descendant of Tiber Septim (Talos) [2].

[!SPOILER ALERT!] At the near-end of the Oblivion Crisis Martin Septim did give up his life to save all of Tamriel by lighting the Dragonfires, even after the Daedric Prince Mehrunes Dagon had come to Tamriel. He, of course, didn't die from lighting the Dragonfires, but with the Amulet of Kings (an artifact given to the Septim Blood-line by Akatosh) and lighting the Dragonfires was he able to transform into the Avatar of Akatosh. After defeating the power-mad Prince, it was not possible for him to transform back to human shape, and so he shouted (like actually screamed to the sky, not like a dragon shout in Skyrim) in the sky, and turned into stone, as seen in Picture 1. Below are some more pictures of before and after The Oblivion Crisis.

Martin Septim transforming into the Avatar of Akatosh. Also to the left, that is Mehrunes Dagon [3].

The Battle for the Imperial City (Capitol of Cyrodiil). Also some Dremora and an Oblivion portal [4].

Martin Septim as the Avatar of Akatosh (Getting closer to The Great Discovery!) [5].

Mehrunes Dagon in his true form in Tamriel [6].

An Oblivion Portal, inside will be a Sigil Stone for the player to take and close the portal (until the Daedra create a new one atleast) [7].

[END OF SPOILERS]

Now then, furthermore with my discovery. As many of you may know, Akatosh, is the Daedric Prince of Dragons, and time. As we all know 'time' is very confusing, but yet so simple. Also, before I continue anymore, I must say this, there is a loading screen in Skyrim saying once Martin lit the Dragonfires, Akatosh defeated Mehrunes Dagon. Akatosh being the Daedric Prince of Time (basically 'confusion') is it possible that before Martin lit the Dragonfires, Akatosh was not even created (by created I mean like 'born' or anything similar) yet. Is it possible that Martin, all along, had in him dragon blood in him (not like being a Dragonborn but like just a little cause of his ancestor Talos (who WAS Dragonborn))? Is it possible a future Akatosh went into the past to make it so complicated as this: Akatosh created Martin so Martin could create Akatosh? Is that how their cycle had worked? Cause as many know and I have said many times, Martin did turn into Akatosh's Avatar at the end. Is it possible? And also in the past (before future Akatosh had to make a huge confusion (possibly)) when I say Akatosh had not been created yet, I also meant that people still believe in him. I am sorry if you think is a waste of your time, but as I said it is an complicated riddle-like ... thing ... Any way that was The Great Discovery. Leave a comment, tell your friends, and like it (or whatever you can do that you can do on here, as I said, I just made this account and did not look at much at what you can do.)

------------ The Epics Hero [TEH]

Also, if someone can, I would like a picture of the loading screen text in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim of the piece I mentioned earlier. " Also, before I continue anymore, I must say this, there is a loading screen in Skyrim saying once Martin lit the Dragonfires, Akatosh defeated Mehrunes Dagon". If you can I will be very thankful.

(When I can I will put the Sources of this Forum).

Now also, lets all just thank Bethesda for making such epic games, series, and stories! All hail Bethesda! (I am not a worshipper of anyone. I just love their games and series (most of them atleast)).

~~[TEH]~~

A mod should move this to the lore forum.

Although, I honestly am not sure where to start with your post. I am too tired to explain everything. I will just report your post and hopefully it gets moved to the right section.

Oops, I did not see that other Elder Scrolls section. I just saw The Elder Scrolls and thought that was it.

Ahahahahahaha no.

The big glaring obvious flaw in this is that Akatosh is not a Daedric Prince of anything. He's an Aedra. Furthermore, his creation is already a known quantity. He was created by Alessia when she formulated the Eight Divines as a compromise pantheon between the Ayleidic Elven and Nordic Mannish pantheons. That is, Akatosh is a fusion of Auri-El and Alduin. Basically, he's one name for the overall Time Dragon.

I'm not sure where the very idea of Martin creating Akatosh to become him after he was retroactively blessed by him came from...

Ya, as the others said Akatosh is an Aedra not Daedra, big difference there.

As far as I understand, when martin became the avatar, this nulled the need for the dragonfires somehow, I don't quite remember why.

As far as your idea of Martin creating Akatosh, I can't say I follow. There isn't any sort of proof or even any hint to this sort of thing nor is their any sort of connection between Martin and Akatosh directly. The only connection is Martin becoming this avatar which is simply a manifestation of Akatosh threw the amulet of kings and possibly the bit of dragon blood in the Talos family lineage. There just isn't any sort of true connection besides that though. Your speculation is purely that, speculation. While I don't think there is any way this is possible or true it's not an idea that can be.... disproved I guess?

This is why people shouldn't do drugs SMH

Technically, the fact that Akatosh is an Imperial invention makes him a Daedra by default. Daedra = "not our ancestor".