The thread for indecisive people!

It's a good thing, and usually far more balanced when people consider both sides of an argument. I'd like to see postings here where people have had one view and subsequently changed it - and more importantly the reasons why.

An example:

I thought a subscription payment model was a good idea, having been a long term fan of warcraft.

I changed my mind recently, having tried "Guildwars 2". There seems to be a HUGE amount of commonalities with this title, but for a LOT of reasons, it's not a game I would pay monthly for. Lack of roles made for boring repetative gameplay. Lack of LFG functionality made one of the most appealing aspects of the game inaccessible or awkward. Lack of roles also lessened the feel of teamworking and adding value. It felt like half the glue that holds parties and guilds together just wasn't there. All in all a very disappointing title, which is based on monthly subscription would be unlikely to last out.

I can only hope for a better implementation with ESO. That said, going by the predecessor, Skyrim, the flexibility and design allowed someone to specialise in being tanky, healing or dpsing in many ways. The devs and designers ultimately have a very tough challenge ahead, and one which seemingly small decisions can make or break the future of the title.

Will be interesting to see the outcome.

Well its all about game, cant judge whether its better to be B2P or P2P without playing game.

But in this situation it would be best to start with P2P , if game proves worthy then they keep with P2P and they still can chance model to B2P after P2P but chancing model to P2P after B2P would be annoying.

A reasonable point well made. There is one risk however. Any successful game seems to rely on a strong impact at launch.

If I heard the game was a Guildwars 2 clone that was P2P I wouldn't buy it, based on my short experience of Guildwars 2 and already feeling bored with it. If it was B2P however, I MAY be inclined to give it a try anyway.

In the event a large chunk of the user base had the same thoughts it could damage the launch numbers, and pull off too slowly. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Doesn't really sound like you changed your mind at all.

You were for the subscription model.

You played a game that is buy to play and did not like it.

It sounds like you will change your mind if ESO has the same issues as GW2. But you have not changed it yet.

This thread is starting to look a lot like a payment model discussion, which at the moment hasn't been opened up by the mods.

Incorrect. Based on what I've seen to date, I'm currently of the view that a sub model may not be the best idea.

Tapani is right though. This thread isn't just intended for that subject. Has anyone else had a change of view recently?

Yep, yet another business model thread.. I thought people would know by now this game is subscription based as said by devs. People didnt change their mind, theyre too stubborn to listen devs, well thats normal MMO [censored].

I'm not interested in trolling. Especially by people who don't bother to read the thread purpose.

I haven't heard it's definately going to be sub. If that's the case though I'll have to hope I see good things. Otherwise I guess I'll save some cash at least.

Go to youtube or google, and search "elder scroll online subscription" its pretty much everywhere and confirmed to be true 100%. Theres games for everyone, B2P, F2P, sub-based, you name it, wish people would understand it.

I think the OP would have been much better off starting this thread with a non-payment method example of ideas changing over time (such as the megaserver, the lore changes in Cyrodiil, first person point of view, etc). Now people have it stuck in their head that this is what this thread is all about, regardless of the OP's intentions.

Nah, just nah. Please for the love of all that is holy just nah.

Well, when I first heard of tes online I was very sceptical and I didn't think I would play it because it sounded like some WoW game...thinking it would ruin the tes series.

Now I couldn't be more excited!

I wanted to troll this thread, but then I changed my mind and thought "you are advlt person, behave like one" so Im not gonna troll here

the thing i change my mind on the most is during the play through.

"Does the playstyle im currently using offer what i want?"

all the time the answer is no, and thus i make a new character, of a different race and play again.

After 100 hours i ask the question: "Does the playstyle im currently using offer more interest in the future?"

then the answer is no, i make a new char, of a different race and play again.

repeat 100 times

find new game