Did Marie Antoinette deserve to be executed?

Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:03 am

Or was she a victim of radicalism?

I'm not a huge expert on the French Revolution but it'd be interesting to hear what you guys think.

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Josee Leach
 
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Post » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:33 pm

your a tad late sir.
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Bellismydesi
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:53 pm

Not really, it's just the peasants holding a revolt against the aristocracy mostly due to unpopular decisions made by said aristocracy.. I just wish people would quit spewing that 'She told them 'let them eat cake' line, she never said it, yet that line persists to live on. :stare:

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RObert loVes MOmmy
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:45 am

Wow, don't even use spoiler tags. What the [censored].

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roxanna matoorah
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:08 pm

From what I've read, it seems like it radicalism from the French Revolution, and possibly because she was Austrian and had sympathies with Austria, who was an enemy of France. She did not say the poor should just 'eat cake.'

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Nick Pryce
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:47 am

That and her 'trial' was for show as they knew beforehand they'd be executing her. They even trumped up her charges, charging, amongst other things, orgies in the palace, incist and other 'blasphemies'.

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Hannah Whitlock
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:30 pm

^ I'll pretend I didn't hear anything.... :whistling:

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Juliet
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:26 pm

I thought it was 'let the rich eat cake while the poor don't eat at all'. How would poor people have access to cake when bread was scarce then?

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Kathryn Medows
 
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Post » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:42 pm

Yuppers.

Umm...not birthday or wedding cakes, but the left overs from baking. You know, all that crust [censored] that sticks to the pans. The phrase is both callus and ignorant, as it's pretty much an out of touch rich snob saying "let the poor eat our left over stuff." It's why in the report scene from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure had that girl just before their report say "if Marie Antoinette were alive today, she would say 'Let them eat fast food.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:52 am

That reminds me of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Nicolae_and_Elena_Ceau%C8%99escu

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Karine laverre
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:18 pm

Okay, I see what you mean, like the 'caked' up residue.

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Lindsay Dunn
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:48 pm

Okay, what? How is that a spoiler?

Btw, the Titanic sinks at the end of the movie. :P

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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:35 am

Yes she did. "Let them eat cake!" Unfortunately this predisposes the whole nation to Type 2 Diabetes if that is all they eat. One of the side effects of Diabetes are fits of rage. So I'm guessing she met up with a lot of enraged peasants. :D
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Charity Hughes
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:26 am

What's this? My badass female Dovahkiin, Listener, Stormcloak Supporter Breton had been executed?! You mean all this time she was living a dying dream, and she was really executed by the nasty Imperials at Helgen?! WHAT GAME HAVE I BEEN PLAYING!?? Am I really playing out her shade? A ghost of what could have been had she been killed before Alduin showed-

Oh, oh wait...we're not talking about Marie Motierre, my character, are we? Awkward. Very awkward.

Ahem, right, Marie ANTOINETTE. Who most certainly was NOT the Dovahkiin.

I've always believed she was a victim of the press, they shred her apart, made her out to be this rich strumpet who didn't care about the poor. It also didn't help she was Austrian, a hated country to the French. I always saw her as a woman who did what she could with the knowledge she had at the time. Keep in mind that it was King Louis XVI who had real power, he could've done more, and better. Clearly nothing worked out, and Marie paid for it with her life.

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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:08 am

Please be joking, please be joking.... >.<

As I recall, Louis was more or less a puppet during his reign, and made great efforts to accomodate the growing republican spirit of his subjects. Not that it helped him any...

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Rik Douglas
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:45 am

She actually never said that.

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Kat Lehmann
 
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Post » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:50 am

It's pretty much been said. The people didn't like her or the monarchy she was a part of, so they invented some charges and had her beheaded.
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Post » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:06 pm

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