The forgotten art of Bartering...

Post » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:05 am

i think you mean haggling

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Robyn Howlett
 
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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:20 pm

Oh of course. For every guy that walks out for not getting a deal, there'll be someone else who'll buy at the ticketed price, no questions asked. And if you do have trouble moving the stock, then you'll lower prices on your own account. I wouldn't walk out on a store as a way of inflicting market harm on them, it just doesn't work that way. But I would walk out if there were many other potential sellers, and there was the prospect of getting a better price elsewhere. And, at least based on my own experience, certain kinds of items will vary in price, and some places are more willing than others to drop their prices for customers that are willing to haggle (although they'll try to svck you in with "extended warranties" and other expensive junk to make up for the lost profits).

There's no need to be arrogant and insulting when bargaining. It's just a matter of knowing the market and the product and using that information to your advantage.

Agreed. What that poster describes isn't bartering, it's free riding upon the cooperative behaviour of others, and relying on the driver to not enforce the price (this is quite different from the driver setting a different price).

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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:48 pm

I can't believe no one has mentioned this, but this is about 'negotiating price' (which is indeed a nearly lost art) and really has nothing to do with 'bartering'. Bartering is exchange without use of currency...as in 'will work for food', among other examples.

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Nicole Coucopoulos
 
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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:11 pm


Bust out the Theasauarus Rex You can barter with your cash , Bargaining is getting a reduced price on something , same smell again, haggling smells like that too. Moon spells Money ....
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Laura Cartwright
 
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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:06 pm

I don't negotiate or barter. Not really my thing. I will shop for a lower deal though.

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I'm one of those guys who if they try to barter will get kicked out.

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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:35 pm

Well, maybe where you are from the art of bartering is lost, but I know a lot of people who barter all the time. Hell, go to your local China town and I bet you will see tons of bartering going on. It still is a very useful and relevant skill to have. You can get thousands knocked off a car if you can barter well with a salesman. Then you got the hussling people who try to make money on the side by selling all kinds of stuff, but you usually see that in poorer communities(which includes college students, middle class kids with bad jobs, ghettos, etc etc...). You also see it outside those communities with Craigslist, and such. Just call em up, show up and haggle.

Then again, as what I have learned over time seems to be the usual case, maybe Hawaii is just different. :shrug:
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lillian luna
 
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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:21 pm


I did some haggling in Honolulu, what I learned was that the goods were cheaply made and the obligatory middle ground at the end of the haggling was overpriced. What you end up paying extra is the tourist price for the experience of haggling.
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Post » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:34 am

Can't go into a supermarket and try bartering, you'll be ignored or kicked out.

My barter among friends and the smaller shops, sometimes in the pub for cheaper drinks/food.

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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:51 pm

Never barter near tourist traps...NEVER!!! There are also some people who will 'rob' you blind with a smile if you are not careful when bartering with them. Honolulu is the worst of the bunch though. A lot of Japanese tourists pay a premium for American designer brands and then their expectations for pricing is overblown and people take advantage of that. US mainland tourists do something similar but with cheaply made 'tropical' crap. It is a running joke where I am from how tourists get robbed in broad daylight here. You REALLY have to look and haggle for a good deal here as a local. If you are ever here again, don't haggle over tourist items or just start to walk away, they will probably yell a new price at you as you start to leave lol. IF it is a place that haggles, not everyone does so.
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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:47 pm

In my nation, due to the way things are arranged here, it is impossible to barter for anything that isn't a huge purchase like a house, kitchen or car.

The way items are priced depends on law more than anything else, so there is simply little wiggle room for salespeople.

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Post » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:16 pm

Your nation sounds terrible! I will pay no less than three chickens a goat and two salmon for your home, good day sir!

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Post » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:15 am

Oh it's quite well arranged for consumers, I always thought. For instance, it is illegal over here to sell stuff below cost to drive competitors out of business.

Which is one of the reasons Wallmart failed in Germany, they couldn't use that tactic. Good for the consumer, since small stores aren't driven out of business and replaced with monolithic organisations that care nothing for the locals.

In any case, if those salmons have roe in them you have yourself a deal sir! Otherwise I'll need an extra chicken.

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