First off, Your complaining about the subscription fee is pointless. Many of you are crying cause you have been unemployeed for x amount of months for x reason or your just 13 years old and mommie refuses to pay for the game. Or you can't scrounge up the fee because your 5 kids are needing school vacinations and your dirtbag self wants to play a game instead.

Point is, Bethesda and Zeni have put in thousands upon thousands of man hours to deliver an amazing game. And I'm quite sure their is going to be hundreds and possibly millions more man hours invested into keeping the game great in the future. AND I'm also quite sure those guys want to get paid for doing it. I know my [censored] doesnt want to work 60 hour weeks for free.

Next, I have yet to play a F2P game that is filled with as much lore or content as a subscription based game.. AND about 90% of F2P games are "Pay to win" sooo unless you dish out $60 Joe Shlong Face is going to melt your face with his legendary +9999 staff that cost him a hefty $20.. So yes lets make TESO F2P and empliment a system that allows rich people to face roll your wife and her sister for as little as $50. great idea kiddies..

My solution.. as I stated before your either 13 and mommie wont buy the game for you, or you dont have a job for whatever reason. 1// kid your too young to play the game, read the EULA and go play runescape or neopets. 2.. broke guy, if you cant afford $30 a month for your console sub + your TESO payment your prioritys are wrong. get a job, get out of your moms basemant, and find a girlfriend that will let you dress her up in the Bonemold armor replica you spent $500 on and you can dragonborne shout to your hearts content.

That being said, Games have always been a way to pass the time for people who have their life financially stable, if you can afford to game then you should hopefully have enough money to feed your 5 kids, that doesnt mean breaking Ramen noodle packets in half to feed them. If TESO went F2P or Pay to Win, Im quite certain your poor self would be one of few to actually play the game, much like all the other F2P's that have a lifespan of 1 yr before their player base drops down to under 20,000 people. Lets take EvE, or Everquest for example... been around for quite some time, still svck subscriptions from people. still owning the gaming world, "Granted EQ recently went F2P since they have EQ2 EQ3 Eq 9 whatever released..."


~From a guy who has bigger concerns about TESO then subscription complaining.

i think most people are complaing about the new pre order bonuses, the sub fee isnt bad

Oh this thread will end real well. I do not know what you expect.

im sure it will get removed, but atleast a few people will see it.. lol.

Not many sensible people complain about sub fees as long as the game doesn't try to both use micro-trans and sub fees to fund itself.

i am sure this thread will be deleted but, i have yet to find anything that comes close to the value i get when i pay 15 a month for an mmo game

what is this thread?

my point exactly.. i would pay 300$ for initial cost, and 25$ a month for a game, if the content was good enough. i am a proud member of The Anti F2P Society of Gamers, okay i just made that up, but im sure if i made such a group, we would rival Fema

we been beat up by the other mmo's that are f2p. we are expecting a good mmo now with this subscription. atleast i hope

just seems to be that i got this idea that if im paying for something that perhas it will be better quality then other games idk

I just hate to see great concepts get ripped apart like many korean F2P mmos, and being as big a fan as ES as I am, i wanna see it done right. such an amazing concept needs to be handled delicately, the simpliest idea could crush a game.. for example. X Rebirth, the whole X series was amazing, Rebirth had huge and awesome concepts.. only to be broken by bugs, and drowned with crap concepts.

I love this notion that people who don't actively throw money away are somehow dirty, unemployed, or some kind of social degenerate.

Hey guys, if you're in the business of paying extra for stuff.. Why not donate to some charities or something. I'm sure they could use the fist full of benjis hanging out of your pocket.

With this start.....I am sorry, but there won't be any argument with u sir. I bought CE my self but your behavior is just shabby.

being that I donate well over $1100 dollars a year to both briast cancer foundation and wounded warriors foundation im pretty sure I can say that $30 a month is well deserved money I can invest in to relaxation and hobbys... you know something working people can afford.

I think people have moved on from whining about subs.

Most reasonable people who're going to form the core of the player base are fine with subs and even prefer it. I do. So I think you wasted your time with the rant, but I hope you feel better.

Horse's [censored].

I'm sure they have, but I do feel alot better, now we can get onto more pressing matters... like why cant a I be a nightelf paladin that wields a dagger in 1 hand, and a 2 hand greatsword in the other, AND be able to use stealth...

Big spenduh!!! 1!oneone

i havent seen anyone realy complaining about the sub .. its mostly just FB that has them comments and also twitter and stuff like that. but not realy seeing them complain hereon this forum.

im all for subscription and i think so are most of the members here on this forum

thank u sir