Continuing from the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1604190...

What does Wrye Bash do?

• It makes it safe to try out new mods because it will restore everything to the way it was when you uninstall a mod
• It makes more mods compatible with each other by importing information from different mods into a "bashed patch"
• It allows you to exceed the 255 mod threshold by automatically merging some types of mods for you

FAQ:

Download: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22368 and, of course, https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/releases.

Documentation:

• http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20General%20Readme.html, http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20Advanced%20Readme.html, http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20Technical%20Readme.html, http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20Version%20History.html (also included in the download as "Wrye Bash General Readme.html" in the Mopy/Docs folder)
• alt3rn1ty's http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/35230 (For Oblivion, new guide for Skyrim pending)
• Metallicow's BAIN http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/38857
• Translated documentation and guides: http://guides.tesfans.org

Requirements and Installation:

Short version: just use the installer, and install everything to their default locations.

Long version: see the http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20General%20Readme.html for information, and the http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20Advanced%20Readme.html for even more details.

Development:
The project is hosted at https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash. You'll need a GitHub account to create or add data to bug reports and feature requests.

Reporting Bugs: Try to give us enough information to diagnose your problem. The following information is useful to us:

You can see all the known bugs in the https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues, and more info on reporting a bug and Bash's logs
on our https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/wiki/%5Bgithub%5D-Reporting-a-bug wiki page

Linking: If you'd like to link to Bash from somewhere else, please do! But be sure to link to either http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22368 or https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash. Don't link to the actual download file, since that changes fairly frequently.

Related Projects:

• The Official http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1505167.
• Load orders should be managed with http://boss-developers.github.io/, which also supplies updated lists of tags used for importing (though even if you don't use BOSS, a basic taglist is shipped with each version of Wrye Bash)
• Valda ported and maintains Wrye Bash for Fallout3 (http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1211142) and Fallout3 New Vegas (http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1234195). These are in the process of being re-integrated into Wrye Bash proper.

Join the Wrye Bash Team:

Currently we are looking for volunteers to contribute Wrye Bash. The main focus is updating Wrye Bash's code so that it can handle more than just leveled lists for Skyrim. However, that does not mean that the Oblivion version will be ignored. Wrye Bash is written in Python but does use some external C++ files. For that reason we need Python programmers primarily but could use anyone with C++ experience to update the external libraries that Wrye Bash uses. If you would like to volunteer please PM me. Your help will be greatly appreciated.

The updates that are needed:

1) Update patchers so Wrye Bash can process Skyrim's files as it does for Oblivion
2) Finalize the code refactoring that started with 305 and 306 - mainly refactor BAIN and freeze the layout of the patchers package
3) Finalize the UI refactoring so we can move on to newer python/wx python versions
4) Update CBash. CBash is the exception in that it can be updated at any time as long as there is a volunteer to work on it.

Please see the https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash#contributing in our repo readme.

Changelog for Latest Version:
306 Code refactoring, performance [2015/11/07] [Utumno]

Full http://wrye-bash.github.io/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20Version%20History.html is available online.

Bug tracking and progress towards 307. Here's a rundown of what the next release will contain, as well as a list of all known bugs and requested enhancements. Links lead to the github issue tracker artifacts. If you have information or opinions pertaining to any particular bug or enhancement, please comment at the tracker link. If you have screenshots or sample files, you can attach them (or a link to them) to the trackers too. Any information helps but keep the posts at the tracker as technical as possible! Users who have reported bugs and are updating from git: please check the following for any closed/fixed bugs (indicated with a strikethrough). Confirmation of the fix would be much appreciated. Please note: we have not finished transferring the bug tracker from Sourceforge so please look http://sourceforge.net/p/oblivionworks/bugs/ as well before posting a bug.

https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues?q=milestone%3A307+is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen

• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/279: Installer column for mods/inis is not always updated https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/271: Screenshots Tab - Image remains displayed after deleting last screenshot https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/270: BAIN Skips fixups https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/262: Fix overflow error in mods tab for large modification dates https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/236: Cosaves are not edited when editing the save's masters list


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/235: Package script and installer fixups https://api.github.com/users/lojack5


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/229: MustBeActiveIfImported tag appears to do nothing


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/209: Wizard does not show images https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/181: CBash patcher does not import names from csv files


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/179: Mods flicker on mouse over https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/97: Ini Tweaks throw an Exception under Japanese Locale


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/96: BAIN Installers does not install all files https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/93: BAIN is no longer auto-annealing even with the setting enabled (possibly resolved)


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/92: [Oblivion] Bashed Patch changing hardcoded FormIDs

• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/308: Warn when a mod is ordered before its masters https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/290: Better handling of missing game ini


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/278: Installers Quick Refresh menu item https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/277: Refreshing an installer should refresh/rescan its files in Data https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/276: Customizable color for markers https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/269: Skip Bash Installers Folders https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/256: Undo Load order change https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/253: Drop support for older Bash settings files https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/251: Fallout 4 Basic Support https://api.github.com/users/lojack5


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/231: Masterless blank esps https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/221: Remove the messages tab https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/214: Bashed Patch with Nehrim and other total conversions https://api.github.com/users/jfpelland


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/210: Lock load order https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/205: Refresh optimizations https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/171: Make mod export dialogs to remember the export path


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/148: Reading of Skyrim INI files


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/83: Function to check for changed FormIDs


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/53: Jump from Mod List to the Installer that installed a mod https://api.github.com/users/Utumno


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/29: Update ESMify to generate ONAM subrecords


• https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues/26: Persistent language setting

https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Abug

https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aenhancement


The bugs mentioned fixed are fixed in the stable development version, you can download the python files from here: https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/archive/dev.zip

https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/archive/utumno-wip.zip based on branch https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash/tree/utumno-wip

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7b5ily482re0khs/AAD3vAWMVJNIpuS30tsdVte5a?dl=0

Same, you have to run it through the debug startup to get these logs. Otherwise it simply dies after selecting a game from the menu.

My response to http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1604190-wrye-bash-thread-110/page-7#entry25216818 from the previous thread.

Yes, I rebuilt the bashed patch with PBash and I'm using the stand alone.

Alright fixed the crashes + new fixups for the sound patcher:

307.201609101502

Be the first to test download

I just rebuilt the bashed patch in PBash for Oblivion and only got http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1604190-wrye-bash-thread-110/page-5#entry25211720 harnless error. Thanks for fixing the error in the previous WB-build.

Thanks @Leonardo

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While I merge my branch in stable dev branch I need you to focus testing on LOOT 9.2 (does it work alright ?) and the new 7zip 16.02 that is contained in my branch - the invalid RAEWD package boiled to changes in the output of this new 7z release. I need to merge those in but I have to know that there are no more regressions. So LOOT and BAIN testing please

Quick question, folks!

If I clean a mod, is there any way for Bash to automagically update the BAIN archive it came from with the new .esp I just made?

Hope that question makes sense, cheers!

PS, I LOVE the "Mod Checker" feature and the "Scan for dirty edits" button. I've been using it to clean today and it's awesome!

Edit:

Also, I've read you can run 'undelete references" or "UDR" on your bashed patch - is there any real reason to do this? Is it particularly recommended?

Yes there is. Follow these steps:

1. Go to the installers tab

2. Go to the installer package for the mod

3. Right click on the package.

4. Select the "refresh" option to make sure that the installer has all the correct information

5. Right click again.

6. If any of the files that are marked as installed have are different from the installer package you will see a "sync from data" option available.

7. Select the sync from data option.

8. In the pop up window, you will see a count of how many files in the installer package will be updated and how many deleted. Pay close attention to that! Depending on the complexity, .ini file changes, etc., you may end up updating/deleting more files than you intended. Unfortunately there is no "check box" option for you to select which files actually get updated deleted (it's in the request queue).

9. If the numbers look right, proceed, and your altered .esp file will be copied over into your source installer package.

Hope that helps.

Thanks so much! Will try it right away and report back!

While I have you, another question. When I use "Mod checker" and "Scan for Dirty edits", I get a list of supposedly dirty mods:

http://i.imgur.com/snO0gWi.png

And yet none of them seem to be able to be cleaned by the normal process in tes4edit. Is there something I am missing?

Hmmm, okay attempting to follow your steps I seem to be having a problem where "Sync from Data" is greyed out. There is a mismatch being detected, but I can't seem to do anything. Here is a screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/5GIMblv.png

I tried running as admin.. is there another simple issue I'm neglecting?

I think you have to have the mod unpacked as a project. It can't sync/update a compressed/zipped file.

Perfect! Many thanks, that worked like a charm. I'm all synced up and cleaned and good to go now. I appreciate it.

Hey all,

I recently noticed that Bash was not respecting my load order when creating the bashed patch. To be precise: it was importing variables from plugins higher in the load order and overwriting changes made by other mods, in many cases this rendered the later mods non-functional. For instance I have a mod that removes the ,"you are carrying too much", message that plays non-stop whenever my character is over encumbered. The mod does this simply by removing the text. Well Bash replaces that text when creating the patch. It also overwrites variables that are changed in favor of mods higher in the load order or masters. I don't want it to do that. In fact it's a form of near instant and endless frustration. (Why bother installing a mod if the patcher that makes them play nice together nullifies some of those mods?) For the most part all I need Bash to do is merge leveled lists and make the tweaks I want (timescale, active NPC's, arrow speed, etc.)

So... how do I stop Bash from meddling when I use it to make a bashed patch?

Thanks.

That happens when the earlier mods have specific tags that the later mod lacks. You need add the needed tags to the later mod, then make sure no subsequent mod overrides it.

If that doesn't solve it, let us know. We've had several reports of the patcher accepting the first mod with a changed record and ignoring subsequent mods, which might be what you're seeing. If so, please give us detailed information about the mods, load order, and whether you're using CBASH or PBASH. Thanks!

Thanks for the reply, but that behavior is just maddening. It requires an attention to detail that is simply absurd. I cannot even imagine having the time, patience, or inclination to check every record after running the patch to verify which were handled correctly and which were not. Which means the only test is to play and stumble across a misbehaving mod and then address it on a case by case basis. There must be a more intuitive and sanity preserving way of handling the problem. At this point I'm disabling everything in bashed patch except for tweaks, leveled lists, and inventory because I don't know how to prevent bash from just causing more problems.

Unfortunately, the only solution to these sorts of problems is time and reporting issues to mod authors as well as the BOSS team. Many mod authors, myself included, don't understand the intricacies of how WB works, so we wouldn't know what tags to add unless someone told us there was a problem and that a particular tag was necessary and why.

Without that "absurd" attention to detail that others have spent, there would be no bashed patch at all.

However, your solution is the simplest one (and one I was going to recommend). It will just mean that some mods that were mergeable and could have been deactivated will have to remain active. But if you don't have a heavy load order, that won't be much of an issue.

If you don't have the patience to figure it out, then you will have to wait until someone else does.

Found a strange bug with inventories importing. Look at these screenshots:

http://imgur.com/a/QxHSP

In one case MTC's entry has overwritten FCOM's change, in second everything was imported perfectly, and in third Bashed Patch has just ignored MTC's changes. Is there any way to fix it without a manual patch?

P.S. Also, many village/quest mods need Actors.AIPackages, Invent and Factions tags. Here is one example from MTC: http://imgur.com/a/K9sqj

Nod nod. Okay. I expect I will continue to play Skyrim. If I ever have an OCD day (they do happen) I will take lots of notes and post my results.

Thanks for the attention.

Cheers.