Well if the customer is expected to know this, then surely Bethesda knows this. It is not the customers' responsibility to 'research' a product. It is the manufacturer's or publisher's responsibility to NOTIFY the customer of these things. Does Bethesda? Nope again. All they do is hype the game to hell. Again, a patch was announced a day BEFORE the game's release, so they obviously knew about those issues for some time, yet they failed to inform the customer purchasing the game (who doesn't necessarily, and certainly shouldn't have to, visit forums or anywhere else before buying a product).

As for the RROD, MS didn't just abandon the users affected by it after a relatively short period of time, did they? They actually repaired/exchanged the consoles affected by it AND went as far as to extend their warranty with regards to it. It's funny all the people telling others to wait to buy the game, but they have nothing negative to say about Bethesda's pre-order bonus shenanigans. IOW, with not an ounce of objectivity, their bias is plain as day.

When people are spending ￡40 on a game, then they should research a product. I wouldnt buy a ￡40 game without first knowing whats its like or if its any good

And publishers shouldn't release buggy, broken games and take your money. Lets be honest, none of this was mentioned in any reviews, so how can we research it?

That's not very descriptive for how major the bugs are. This texture glitch is pretty damn big.

Repeating the word "DISGRACE" over and over, is putting it a tad mildly, methinks.

Maybe, but he is still correct in his sentiments.

this is the 360 section. so, whats the point of your reply?

Do main quest bugs count as game-breakers? Because I've run into one of those Guess I'll never get to kill Alduin or whatever the [censored] you do at the end of this game....

Ive only had 1 gamebreaking bug. First game never autosaved at all. 6 hrs wasted when I died. Started a new one and 28hrs in all is well (so far).

I get what you mean with the lemon law, and with that law enforced, companies would get 3 chances to fix the problem. After 3 patches that are supposed to fix the problem actually don't, we should all get our money back. I don't think it's a bad idea. Game developers need to be held to a high standard, and releasing games with game breaking bugs (haven't encountered any, but have seen numerous reports on the forums. I have however found MANY bugs) is simply unacceptable. Games in this day and age are released WAY too early, and although I admit Skyrim's gameplay and most graphics are AMAZING, the texture loading issue makes about 30% of the textures I see look like they're from a Windows 95 game. It seems to me they wanted to release it on a "cool release date" and pushed it through. They also had 5 years to sort these issues out.

I have no idea how they didn't see the texture bug on the 360 when they tested it. I understand the 360 is dated hardware (hence why MS is working on the Xbox Next), but with games like Mass Effect graphics wise, we shouldn't be having these issues. Mass Effect looked absolutely amazing on the Xbox 360. Sure, Skyrim is a much bigger world, and how they got it all on one disk, I haven't a clue. Even BF3 was on 2 disks!

I have had to delete a lot of posts from this topic along with some of those posts replying to them. It may have made the thread a little disjointed but it was necessary. Sorry guys if you were effected.

Agreed. And don't rely solely on Autosave. This is strictly anecdotal, but the majority of complaints that I've read of not having good saves to reload seem to come from autosaves. I hard save a lot. That way I have lots of choices of where to reload to (hopefully) continue on if I do run into a glitch and need to backtrack. That's assuming the glitch will not recur if I do backtrack.

I do sympatize if your preferred method of play is to do the main quest first and you run into a showstopper. However, you do at least have lots of other things to do in-game until Beth releases the patch.

Actually, Skyrim went "Golden" less than 2 (1 1/2??) weeks before 11-11-11, so they were still working on bugs up til then.
And I guess that it was almost surely a marketing decision to go "gold" anyway to meet 11-11

Skyrim is one of the biggest, deepest, most intricate video games to ever be released. There are bound to be glitches, especially at first. Beta testing can't solve everything. Just be patient for a week or so and the major bugs will be fixed. Same thing happened with Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Oblivion. They had game breaking bugs in the beginning too, but Bethesda eventually ironed them out.

42 square kilometers (26.25 sq. miles) of content in this game, so what if there are some bugs? there will be fixing patches so if 1sq. km is glitched enjoy the other 41!!!!

You know, judging from what I've read, it would appear that the only reason you baught the game in the first place was to look for the imperfections rather than simply sitting down and enjoying the game. If that be the case I say congradulations on wasting your money on something so frivelous. I mean seriously? Skyrim has been out for less than a week and you're already [censored]ing about all the bad [censored] you can find. OMG a few rocks are missing textural detail, do you really think large gaming companies are expecting people like you to walk right up to a rock and look for some excuse to be unhappy about the games Graphics. Seriously if you;'re this unhappy about Skyrim, then I don't see how any other game is going to top this within the next three-seven years. Sure there may be some bugs, glitches and textural imperfections here and there, but how often do you have a high definition game fresh off the shelves that doesn't have some form of imperfection, be it graphical or scripting errors.

Simple solution to your problem, if one rock missing some textures, having trouble finding your pony and all the other niggling details have made you so unhappy, don't play the game, find something else to play, although, judging from what I've read, it appears as though no game will make you happy unless it is as life like and perfect as possible. I wish you luck in your endeavour to find a perfect game.

On the up side, good work Bethesda, loving Skyrim

You know, judging from what you've written, it would appear that your are quite content on paying for broken merchandise. If the only reason you posted here was to flame your really devoted fan mentality, rather than adding to the conversation regarding the plethora of bugs/glitches which need to be reported if we have any hope of getting them fixed, then I congratulate you on wasting your time on something so frivolous. I mean seriously? Skyrim has been out for less than a week and myself among thousands of others have posted all the bugs/glitches we have found due to Bethesda's sloppy beta testing procedures. OMG its not just a few rocks missing textural detail, its a major textural caching problem that is affecting all xboxes. Had you bothered to pull your really devoted fan head out of your ass long enough to read the forums you would realize this!

Furthermore, had you taken a moment to think about what I originally posted, you would realize that I am not unhappy with the game; rather I am unhappy that we are paying them to beta test their game. This is a growing practice in the gaming industry and quite frankly I find it appalling. I have spent 15 years in the television production industry and it its a constant goal to produce the best aural/visual/editorial quality that I can. If I were to deliver my high definition products in VHS EP quality I would be out of a job. For a game that has been over six years in development, and drastically hyped as the greatest thing since sliced bread its a little bit shocking to purchase something that is only 80% complete.

Why do people think they can give spoilers in the glitch forum?

By the way, hundreds of unpredictable variables can affect a hundred unpredictable systems, thus creating a bug. Especially on a game of this scale with so much happening at once. They can spend two years fixing bugs, and some are still gonna be around. The true bug testing is when you get thousands of people playing, yhus thousands of variables going from possibility to probability. And that cannot happen until a gameis released (they wont hire a couple thousand people to bug test the game for weeks; that would be stupid and costly). Something that worked fine for them can get corrupted with the making of game copies, updates, and so on.

Ever seen patch notes when it says "Fixes rare case of..."? That rare case means that what is being fixed had so little probability to happen to one person. However, with thousands playing at once, the probability increases.

People, posts went away.

This is the 360 issues forum. If you aren't playing on the 360, don't post about how your version has no issues. Platform bashing earns warnings and posting ability suspensions.

Are you guys kidding me right now? Are any of your brains big enough to even consider the amount of work and complexity that went into designing and developing a game like this? I bet half of you think it's just like 4 guys sitting in a room making graphics and putting [censored] together.. The game came out 5 days ago and your sitting here [censored]ing and moaning about anything and everything like little 5 year old kid who's throwing tantrums cause mommy wont let him have desert cause he didn't finish his dinner. Seriously grow up, give Bethesda some time to compile the bugs and errors and go through them and figure out how and what they're going to fix first. You can't just wave a magic stick around and be like OOOO game fixed rock on, not the simple kiddos, it takes time. There are going to be bugs and errors no matter WHAT on a game of this size and complexity especially when its running on a completely new graphics engine, And half the so called "Game Breaking" Bugs and errors you guys are posting aren't even game breakers at all. You act as if your in a rush to complete the game and everything else in it before your friends. All Your going to do is wear out the game.. Take your time.. enjoy the game and play it right. If somethings not working right, SKIP IT! Come back to it later! It's not that hard of a concept to grasp! Also when are people going to understand that nothing comes out perfect the first time, no matter how much you might want it to. NOTHING in life is perfect. All I hear is "your just a fan svcking bethesda's dike, or this or that. Seriously? If you want the game fixed that bad then do what you should be doing which is reporting the bugs and errors so they can issue patches and help fix the game not sit here on the forums and complain about how bad the company and the game is, all your doing is ranting and raving because your irritated cause not everything went right in your so called "Perfect little world. If your that upset about the bugs, then svck it up, help report the bugs and errors so they can be fixed and stop complaining. It's irritating to come onto the forums and see people bash a game that took a lot of hard work and dedication to make. Who cares if companies release the game and everyone who plays it first is a beta tester? Seriously, who cares? The game is 5 days old what about that do you not understand? EVERY game off the shelf, I don't care what it is has some kind of error, bug, glitch and its always going to be that way, It's Impossible to be absolutely perfect right from the first release especially with a game this huge. If you feel so angry about all the bugs and are really that upset do yourself, and bethesda a favor and sell the game and never play it again.


There are no game breaking bugs on the main quest. I know a few people who have already finished the main story line. Try Again.

You don't even have to stand face-planted into a rock or tree to see things were pretty effed up. THAT'S the problem. We haven't been sniffing the walls in Dragonsreach just to [censored] about a game.




I agree with your statements. I like finding glitches and bugs, however, and enjoy posting about them, not to [censored], but to see if others have my same problem, and if it can be addressed. Posting about a glitch just because it pisses one off is definitely not the way to do things. I have no doubt that those of us who bought the game on release are beta-testers, and it shocks me to think that so many people are shocked and angry that a BETHESDA game has bugs.

Does anyone remember not having a difficulty slider or enemy health bar on Morrowind?

Would you like those bugs instead?

Please, be patient. I was angry at first about the texture glitch, but now I found a workaround and everything is as it should be until a patch is released. The only other bug I've ran into is arrows sticking to me and invisible water.

Thank you! Finally someone with some common sense and patience.

Hehehe... I wasn't very patient at first, let me tell you. I felt like all I was doing was finding faults with the game. But I turned that into something more productive.

Like telling everyone that elk and foxes shouldn't float along the ground.

I find that weird, I've seen nothing like that in game so far and I'm level 25. All the elk and foxes I see run around like they're suppose to and I've never had an issue with arrows sticking to me or invisible water.