Update 1.2 and your hopes and expectations

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:20 pm

I agree 100%. The OP calling the developers ignorant, stupid and lazy needs to Please continue, my good sir.. Everyone that complains, go out and make your own damn game that is this enthralling. Seriously, go do it. And before you say that isn't the point, it is the point! We all want to have a bug free gaming experience but guess what? Since my early PC gaming days with Doom there hasn't been a game that is bug free. It happens. And when you make a game a large and free as Skyrim there will be bugs. Unless of course the OP wants TES 6 to be a FPS with only one path you can take.

To the OP and other little whiners, if you think you can do better go do it. Go spend the millions it takes to produce a game of this quality and then setup a forum where unanimous neckbeards can come in to bash and belittle the extremely hard work you and your team put into it. Please do that.

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If I were to develop a game I would never setup a forum. All it does is open the door for people to say things that they would never say in person. I would like to watch the OP go up to one of the TES developers and tell him how lazy and stupid he is. That would make for a good youtube video.

This.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:49 pm

I agree 100%. The OP calling the developers ignorant, stupid and lazy needs to Please continue, my good sir.. Everyone that complains, go out and make your own damn game that is this enthralling. Seriously, go do it. And before you say that isn't the point, it is the point! We all want to have a bug free gaming experience but guess what? Since my early PC gaming days with Doom there hasn't been a game that is bug free. It happens. And when you make a game a large and free as Skyrim there will be bugs. Unless of course the OP wants TES 6 to be a FPS with only one path you can take.

To the OP and other little whiners, if you think you can do better go do it. Go spend the millions it takes to produce a game of this quality and then setup a forum where anonymous neckbeards can come in to bash and belittle the extremely hard work you and your team put into it. Please do that.

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If I were to develop a game I would never setup a forum. All it does is open the door for people to say things that they would never say in person. I would like to watch the OP go up to one of the TES developers and tell him how lazy and stupid he is. That would make for a good youtube video.

edit: didn't proof read

Well said :bowdown:
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 pm

I am a fan of Elder Scrolls and Bethesda rpgs, I've been expecting this game for so long. In these times of crysis, gathering and spending 70 euros to buy Skyrim it's kind of tough for me. So when I experienced the texture issue from the beginning itself I just really couldn't believe it. My own expectations, hyped with some great reviews... I felt so dissapointed. I really hope Bethesda can fix it, 'cos right now I can't help to feel myself a little ripped-off.

Ps: The texture issue still happens when playing off disk, with cache manually removed.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 12:00 am

I'm hoping for the texture problem to be fixed so I don't have to keep running it from a USB stick.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:14 am

Texture bug for me. I agree we should wait till we know the details of 1.2 before judging.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:45 pm

My main concern are the various broken quests and associated item bugs. I've stopped doing all quests besides the misc. objectives as I don't want to encounter a quest bug and lose the ability to finish said quests. That is what concerns me the most. So I hope the new patch fixes the bigger quest glitches and solves the texture/lag issues, that would be a great start!
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 12:13 am

I admit, there are a few things that needs work in Skyrim. I'm hoping 1.2 will fix a lot of these. But out of Skyrim, Oblivon, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, I have encountered the least bugs on Skyrim.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:19 pm

The texture bug needs fixing pretty badly. It's destroying my experience with Skyrim at the moment.

Anything else can take as long as it needs.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:31 pm

At least the texture issue.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:00 am

The glitch where my character is the same size as a child. It's getting pretty [censored] frustration right about....now.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:46 pm

I wouldn't mind the quest glitch with the orc in the college of winterhold being fixed in 1.2. I'm optimistic that the Texture glitch will be fixed but that's not a big deal for me.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:01 pm

The glitch where my character is the same size as a child. It's getting pretty [censored] frustration right about....now.

Haven't heard about this one. What is it exactly? I was glitched in the crouched position, I just had to crouch and un-crouch again to get back to normal. When I was glitched the 3rd person view still showed me standing.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:08 am

Have read that more people experienced this bug. I'm just a lot smaller than the NPC's. Crazy glitch.
It's damn frustration to have to look up all the time to see peoples faces.

Dang it Bethesda, this game is messed up!
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:17 pm

My hopes: Giving the option to switch to a 4:3 ratio or HUD scaling

My expectations: Not what I hoped for.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:24 am

My expectations: Not what I hoped for.
That′s what I′m concerned about until I can get a glimpse on the patch notes. :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 1:18 am

i would of thought they would of released it before thanksgiving...
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:52 pm

I have little faith in Bethesda and to be honest, this patch isn't going to help or be anything other than a sugar pill. Skyrim need ALOT of work and probably needed many more months of testing to ensure quality. Level scaling is beyond [censored]. Whoever thought this system works should have been shot in the throat on day 1. Other bugs and glitches are due to the laziness developers are having overall throughout this generation of video games. Lastly this "creation engine" is gamebryo...you can see this from the first 15 minutes of the game when people are sliding into place, clipping into walls and twitching when dead.

Don't insult our intelligence, all the idiots that have come into gaming recently since gaming went mainstream may be fooled and praise you but i've experienced this in oblivion, fallout 3 and new vegas, please stop. I've stopped playing Skyrim after about a hour and haven't picked it up since and i highly doubt 1.2 will make me return.


The whole "played it for an hour" thing makes alot of sense with [censored]ing like this. I've put a [censored] ton of time into this game, and I can tell you that hands down, its the best game bethesda has put out. Yeah it needs some work, but with the amount of content in the game, I'm surprised there aren't more problems. I'm level 62, and the mob scaling is better than oblivion by far. If you only played an hour, then your concept of mob scaling is probably slightly skewed. I've heard of people having big problems with loading and saves, but that's mostly on the PS3. I have had quests bug out (which is why I'm on this forum) but I've had more not bug out than are in most other rpg games. I also have faith that bethesda will fix the bugged quests shortly, as they have an impeccable track record, and you'll notice, if you read the patch notes for 1.1, that they address bugged quests more than anything else in that patch, and I don't expect 1.2 to be any different. I honestly can't understand why people are so pissed off when 99% of the game is phenomenal, and the other 1% needs a little work. Now I can understand getting pissed about save game losses and losing characters, a game shouldn't be released if there's a potential for losing 100 hours of game time and equipment, but anything short of that, have a little patience and it will get fixed.

When you're given the golden apple of games, don't complain about a few seeds.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:01 pm

So did not get a game because of one thing: lack of customer service in a dignified manner.
I'm trying to time whether the European version that has subtitles in Spanish, is compativerl with my XBox 360 U.S.
What made ??me more iritis, was the issue of subtitles thing, why the hell are the American version of the game only to have subtitles in English?? You missed the second most spoken language in the world?? The Spanish??
Worse than that, is to know that Bethesda has no pretension to put subtitles on the American version using a simple upgrade.
For me it is consumed in calling the clowns, especially the American South, where the predominant language is Spanish and Portuguese
Worst of all is knowing that the PS3 and the PC has subtitles in many different languages
One thing that is simple to be done, will hurt a lot (and I hope to really injure a lot) sales of the game here. I'm onhttp://www.portalxbox.com.br/news.php, and claims arising reheat see this fact.

By the way the business is going from Dark Souls end of this year and hope that Bethesda shame in the face and take common sense to help consumers make it so great so
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:07 pm

I have little faith in Bethesda and to be honest, this patch isn't going to help or be anything other than a sugar pill. Skyrim need ALOT of work and probably needed many more months of testing to ensure quality. Level scaling is beyond [censored]. Whoever thought this system works should have been shot in the throat on day 1. Other bugs and glitches are due to the laziness developers are having overall throughout this generation of video games. Lastly this "creation engine" is gamebryo...you can see this from the first 15 minutes of the game when people are sliding into place, clipping into walls and twitching when dead.

Don't insult our intelligence, all the idiots that have come into gaming recently since gaming went mainstream may be fooled and praise you but i've experienced this in oblivion, fallout 3 and new vegas, please stop. I've stopped playing Skyrim after about a hour and haven't picked it up since and i highly doubt 1.2 will make me return.

Actually, had you done some research before raging like a 12 year old, you may have seen that the Creation Engine was developed and based off of GameBryo. The base engine is GameBryo and the developers have built up over that to make their own engine. The studio uses home-made in-house tools, with the exception of the Havok Behavior used to make the animations and a couple of other things. Yes, skyrim did, and still does need many many more months of testing and development to where there are barely any noticable or game breaking bugs, and I have read an article somewhere saying that Skyrim wasn't initially planned to be released on 11.11.11 and some of the developers were worried they wouldn't have a stable/barely stable release ready at the time they did.

So far, you've only insulted your own intelligence by not researching.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:45 pm

im pretty sure bethesda were one of the first to set a release date.. that sort of kills your argument :)

I'm sure they did. But why stick to a release date with this many problems? Seems a bit wierd that they set a date with all these other titles coming out at the moment as well doesn't it?

Surely someone, somewhere saw at least one of these bugs before release. Or did all the beta testers just do exactly what they were told to? It took me about an hour to find a bug. How long did it take you?

Seriously do they think people in a game like this just does what they are told to do? Not beat a path of thier own?

Nar I'm out. So done with this game. It crashes, freezes, glitches (has naked characters turn up, has horses/people/dragons stuck in the ground, dragons that don't animate, see through player character, arrows/ice spikes stay in you for hours etc etc) It can't even autosave without corrupting save files.

And before you say oh you need a new xbox. I got one. its 3 months old. Its not the xbox. It's either the data on the disk itself, or a miss-pressed disk. Its wrong. Its not worth putting any more time into.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:36 am

I've quit playing until I see some destruction scaling and better mana regen. I shouldn't be forced to use +25 mana reduction x 4 to make everything a 0 cast for destruction to be barely viable 50+.

Well, I won't imagine you'll be playing the game again, then. This is a patch. It will include bug fixes. It will not taiklor to youyr own personal want for a certain way you would like to play the game. Just because you dislike the game design does nort make it a bug.

The only thing I can say is:

They better have fixed the N64 bug! (the bug that makes texture scaling on the Xbox 360 not work properly)

The texture bug (Not actually experienced it myself) is top of their list as far as we know. It's the most widely mentioned Skyrim bug any place online, and has at least been acknowledged.

I doubt they will fix the SDTV problems, so besides that, I hope they fix the texture bug, shadow bug, most of the quest bugs, item bugs, follower bugs, marriage bugs, house bugs, dragon bugs.

Certainly the Marraige issues and Dragons not dying needs looking into. Not had either issue myself, but those could have some big repurcussions in game.

SDTV? No. No developer will go out of their way to accomodate obsolete hardware. Frustrating for some, but the Xbox 360 was designed first and foremost as an HD machine. If you STILL haven't upgraded it's like complaining that you couldn't tell what was going on in a 90s videogame on your Black & White TV.

Activate the subtitles in spanish in the version NTSC, that is all i need T_T

Damn, really? That actually is pretty bad. Are they not localised at all, or just not showing?

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The glitch where my character is the same size as a child. It's getting pretty [censored] frustration right about....now.

Not experienced it myself, but that one is multi format, no? I'd hope somebody looked into it.

My hopes: Giving the option to switch to a 4:3 ratio or HUD scaling

My expectations: Not what I hoped for.

Dude, what kind of TV/monitor are you using if you're still trying to play a game in 4:3 !???
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:19 pm

Don't you find it weird how they haven't updated 1.2 with a changelog yet? Bethesda didn't submit the patch yet, [censored] this probably haven't even started looking for bugs. All they did was post something to keep people from [censored]ing.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:00 pm

Ok, i read all the replies, and i can clearly tell who has played the ES series from arena, daggerfall and morrowind titles. There are a lot of newcomers to the ES series this time around, ones that didn't hop on the oblivion train, ones that are here now for the Skyrim train. 1st of all, Welcome to the wonderful world of elder scrolls, 2nd... Do you realize how utterly huge this game is? do you realize how hard it is to get a behemoth of this kind of game to even function properly? this is not a linear game, yes i am very upset that i cannot get my house in windhelm, but you know that morrowind used to straight up freeze up on me about 50% of the time when i'd load an exterior grid?

One poster mentioned something that should be very though provoking to you young lads just starting ES from a media barrage that pulled you away from COD or PROTOTYPE or whatever other linear stuff you're used to, WE HAVE FORUMS!!!! back in the 80s and 90s you just dealt with the bug, there was no internet connection to your console to FIX it, and the developers got your money anyway, nowadays, they WANT to fix your broke game! In the mod community i was amazed at all the ridiculous pouring out of forum posts when fallout 3 came out, noobs from everywhere were wanting to say how crap the game was, and noobs from everywhere wanted to make a crap mod of an overpowered weapon and sent me pms till my box was full with questions on how to make voice over quest mods.

My point is, you just don't GET IT YET. when you finally get over yourself and experience these games, then one day you're sitting around and you think, "wow... they must have put some time into that", you have barely scratched the surface of how much effort goes into this series.

Example:
In my mod for fallout 3, using the GECK, which is a DUMBED down version of what the dev's use to create quests and content for the game, it took me over 1000 hours to make a 4 part quest, with dialog, proper level scaling, level design, beta testing, bug fixes etc, Now i'm only one person, but that should give you an idea as to the nature of doing this stuff, in an open world like this, there are so many interecting paths, it can sometimes be a delicate balance or house of cards, sometimes you may overlook one little thing.

Conclusion:

While i wish the patch would have come before thanksgiving, and they should have known to get it out BEFORE then, (because of demographics showing more people playing games during this holiday), give them until next week to sort it out, it will probably be out sunday night, 12:00 am monday morning, i'm sure they are freaking about it as much as you are, and i am, Bethesda does have a great record for fixing broken things, not as good as Valve, but still, again, the types of problems are definitely more involved than most games out there, sometimes you can't just fix it without testing the fix to make sure it doesn't break something else. I just hope theres not a stone of berenziah in windhelm house, was hoping to finish that quest up this weekend.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:59 pm


...it will probably be out sunday night, 12:00 am monday morning...
Hopefully.
Although I played 6 hours doing nothing special in the game and just fell in love with it, I haven′t any motivation to play the game right now.It just feels some kind of....idk.But when the patch is released and anything looks and works (we′ll see) like its should,I′ll spend a huge amount of time into it. :spotted owl:
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:35 pm

Fix textures, the fact that caves and dungeons are a lot darker in xbox then on a PC even with brightness at max, wide spread quest issues..AND FIX BEING UNABLE TO FIND YOUR SPOUSE IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT FOLLOWER ACTIVE AT THE WEDDING!
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